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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@tatersworld.org>
Cc: Matt <matt@excalamus.com>, emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] shell sessions started outside of Babel broken
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:22:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttzgeg3w.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttzhy9vm.fsf@gmail.com>

Jack Kamm <jackkamm@tatersworld.org> writes:

> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Org babel assumes ... session is properly initialized if that buffer
>> exists.
> ...
> Having the extra flexibility to start the session manually can be
> handy. For example, conda is currently broken with ob-shell sessions (as
> discussed in this thread), but not M-x shell sessions, so it provides a
> useful workaround.

Makes sense. In fact, ob-core does define a number of interactive
functions to work with sessions manually:
- `org-babel-load-in-session'
- `org-babel-initiate-session'
- `org-babel-switch-to-session'
- `org-babel-switch-to-session-with-code'

What is confusing is that `org-babel-execute-src-block' does not use
generic `org-babel-initiate-session'.

As for ob-shell, ssh/conda not working are because they change the
prompt. And the fact that default Emacs' heuristic regexp to search for
prompts is accidentally matching the prompt in ssh/conda is just a
co-incidence.

The default Emacs' heuristics, on the other hand, never matches
multi-line prompts. So, the current approach is more reliable for "true"
shell source blocks.

We may, however, allow an extra header arg to set the prompt regexp
manually. Would it make sense?

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06 19:39 [PATCH] Async evaluation in ob-shell Matt
2023-02-07 11:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-09  4:33   ` Matt
2023-02-09 11:24     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-10 22:19       ` Matt
2023-02-11 11:44         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-12 19:32           ` Matt
2023-02-15 15:08             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-16  4:02               ` Matt
2023-02-17 10:44                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 23:14                   ` Matt
2023-02-20 11:24                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-20 17:24                       ` Matt
2023-02-22 10:30                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-02  1:36                           ` Matt
2023-03-03 14:52                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-03 17:53                               ` Matt
2023-03-05 12:15                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-06  6:45                                   ` Matt
2023-03-07 12:45                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-09 17:36                                       ` Matt
2023-03-10  1:52                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-03-12 16:28                                         ` Jack Kamm
2023-03-18 10:48                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-21 20:29                                           ` Matt
2023-03-22 12:12                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23 11:50                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23 19:35                                               ` Matt
2023-03-24  9:13                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-28  2:53                                                   ` Matt
2023-03-28 10:06                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-17 15:31                                                   ` Matt
2023-04-17 18:55                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-17 18:56                                                       ` Matt
2023-04-17 19:05                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23  3:25       ` [SUGGESTION] ob-shell async result output should not contains shell prompt Christopher M. Miles
2023-03-23  4:21         ` Matt
2023-03-23 11:12           ` Christopher M. Miles
2023-03-23 16:23             ` Matt
2023-03-24 11:20               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23 16:26             ` Remove "shell" as a supported Babel language within ob-shell.el (was Re: [SUGGESTION] ob-shell async result output should not contains shell prompt) Matt
2023-03-24  1:53               ` Remove "shell" as a supported Babel language within ob-shell.el Christopher M. Miles
2023-03-24 11:38               ` Remove "shell" as a supported Babel language within ob-shell.el (was Re: [SUGGESTION] ob-shell async result output should not contains shell prompt) Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-25  5:47                 ` Samuel Wales
2023-03-25 18:07                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-28  2:33                 ` Matt
2023-02-11 20:56 ` [PATCH] Async evaluation in ob-shell jackkamm
2023-02-12 19:02   ` Matt
2023-02-13  3:16     ` Jack Kamm
2023-02-13 17:07       ` [BUG] shell sessions started outside of Babel broken Matt
2023-02-15  6:19         ` Jack Kamm
2023-02-16 12:53           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 15:04             ` Jack Kamm
2023-02-20 11:22               ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-02-21  5:23                 ` Jack Kamm
2023-02-22 10:38                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-25 16:55               ` Jack Kamm
2023-03-25 16:59                 ` [PATCH] Fix externally started sessions with ob-python Jack Kamm
2023-02-13 20:11       ` [BUG] conda doesn't work in ob-shell sessions Matt
2023-02-15  6:21         ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-18 11:55           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-21 22:48             ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-22  3:42               ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-22 11:59                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-23  6:09                   ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-24 15:22                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-25 19:14                       ` Matt
2024-01-25 20:36                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-26  0:42                       ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-27 10:25                         ` Matt
2024-02-09 16:37                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-23 18:51               ` Suhail Singh

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