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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309882 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Most of us here already "made some effort" are are already "bent" to > some degree or other. So there you have it. Why is it such a calamity for us to expect the same of others as well? > Neither are all of the participants "new employees". That is not relevant to the point I'm making. > That can indeed be a good idea to bring up in a corporation of a > reasonable size (that hasn't yet been bogged down by bureaucracy), > especially when the hiring market is tough. It makes you come across as an arrogant person, particularly if these customs are tried-and-true, and everyone else appears to be abiding by them to no great detriment.