From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Mailing lists help [it was: Help with hooks] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 21:39:59 +0800 Message-ID: <87ttrz5x3k.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <988fce74-dd23-b32f-cf7d-c48ac2783777@gmail.com> <87v8cpes6f.fsf@gmail.com> <87cyyxpzhp.fsf@dataswamp.org> <362ac9d7-9242-3e40-ac87-f65eef0f59ce@gmail.com> <87edj5hi82.fsf@dataswamp.org> <8734zj7crc.fsf@yahoo.com> <4df1e927-43f9-4b4c-8d14-b867b3c1b8a2@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39883"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Emanuel Berg To: Maske Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 12 15:41:04 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qg3dY-000AIY-2x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:41:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg3cz-0003kM-VY; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:40:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg3ct-0003fW-Qa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:40:24 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.31]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg3cn-0001Ea-6n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:40:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1694526010; bh=jJKoIGBgRS0Jgj3xmgkcRuSvUCkTw/XERms1rp7GnLE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=SpkYuravHnSoHwfBxeOZb0nioFCYG7QUWMAQfPQ/cNwZ4mTz+9AenrUmUaPHPsJIhKpoOU5rYVx9gAXWK3lA+f/B1zZsCJ3cqtF21iXbrJQGR+pUoiEQsI3SiBNFaCjxxjr3bqesyu0TE1qwbhWDMlqFvvIwFDAg3xnmkwt0K0WozbQhl0sfrzivnE6PcVrJgSeXtmwZZwbckV8U8CaqltmqsfESAo3SSz5n4iF+IXJDyqmzvCEtgxPVXDAlm0gfvA+yN47WKu+WMDzT7WTcRVDY/9M21oEgCC1XoN3ZmicdiF/jSgJNIDGf+eF8x419O5AcSrstPL/DiZCWOq4rJg== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1694526010; bh=5iJWzSbkDspwbsrEnI7H3AjrmyEPTNyfty8INYkvjXi=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=fjnZEy59e3Ox+pXIietmAa9MtXUZ312ZpV25VKrMKV6qlYXhKhTk3gyeJQ0+mRJWhBvERu6KQ558f2ctcy40S2rbP8NZpRdpz0EjudkAyrjGW0EK3mOBtBaHoCFbv4ZjFF4ZxubjpQhA96zAVh1faqKtUZ7PbvMyDb6EFlxvAEkMwaPG8XkPgl7HeNwILhfz60uptnCqn7D4BNU97nM1zYFet34EfGdc9hamx8LML25kQ3A3fCwx5LFL++iCUuDCBd4ecL+gP80LJP7dk9kC0dqMvM/R5PIwSqpl43HFiIV7nhAQCC21rV2o0dZomW1aL3VsEZWAQiZiQdzF5g91Vw== X-YMail-OSG: LUKAtQIVM1nPRyho5yf_idew5U0JuCQnTDmXi1cG51HaQx91I00wMtR90VhHTkn 1MqHGiPSDiYUx4hTu8KP58m.PlijsQiiP6FwhP_v_4u6aiAh72QUPL07USaQc3etRvJDavHIR.fX Hx_SrASGiYqlL9kNrrPouk4gLeXfM9jxE6HoAEfIrXP0wMhevfWEnOa4NmtYLef.bmHx7i341JnB mdd4YWMyTSqMLczUzh4_1mlfPip58gCjQHO_XjUlm3bEfq65x5FnVnKpco_7HXryGX_j74Xa0zlE j3hdHHVzh6gfjzdV_yVmQxx3FAp.TTJ2LeRw6yMbH6sanNVgizc8XKeMFvHXlbIDkvjOH1dapVIw XvXBS0XpdAVuK9GpdS_Te5DttDzbF2P3XgKwuwb1NHOWHyDZqJsZcb61w6Dw9SxqzNzr6WE9myH. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6428ab2733a99bfc015389fb474f6ce1; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:40:04 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <4df1e927-43f9-4b4c-8d14-b867b3c1b8a2@gmail.com> (Maske's message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:28:54 +0200 (GMT+02:00)") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145110 Archived-At: Maske writes: > Thanks, Po Lu > > Anyway I feel my use of mailing lists is, as said before, a poor man's approach. > > For example, I get the digest with the index in my mail, and I have to > search manually the message I am interested in. Have you considered disabling digest aggregation for your subscription? You should have received a confirmation e-mail upon first subscribing to this list containing a URL that enables you to configure your subscription. IIUC, it can be disabled from there. Incidentally, maybe we should disable digests wholesale, like the FreeType developers have recently done on their list, particularly given that help-gnu-emacs is a list where users seek assistance, not one where announcements or other newsworthy materials are posted. It's a counterproductive misfeature whose only consequence appears to be confusion on the part of new subscribers.