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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311481 Archived-At: Daniel Mendler writes: >>> Yes, if the Emacs maintainers agree I think this could be done. Take >>> compat.el, remove the part which requires compat-29, and copy it to >>> lisp/ or lisp/emacs-lisp/. As you said, if Compat (the package) is >>> installed it will be preferred over the core compat.el. The advantage of >>> this move is that core package could require compat directly without >>> passing a noerror argument to require. Furthermore `compat-call' and >>> `compat-function' would be available and wouldn't have to be copied as >>> is currently the case for example in erc-compat.el. >> >> That sounds good! How does this look like: > > Yes, this is what I meant. I forgot to mention one additional advantage > in my last mail: If the compat.el in core is registered with package.el > as builtin with version 30, the ELPA Compat package wouldn't get pulled > in by external packages which depend on Compat version 29. The core > compat.el version should then be bumped together with the Emacs version. Nobody raised objections. I recommend sending the patch to debbugs (M-x submit-emacs-patch), so that it can be seen by Emacs maintainers. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at