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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 16a6416a81c519a37733b2938387fdb4; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:46:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <838r7smf09.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Oct 2023 14:33:26 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic309-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311778 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > AFAIK, the new description is also not very accurate in its MS-Windows > part (see w32select.c:w32-get-clipboard-data), to the degree that it > might mislead the reader into a completely wrong mental model of what > happens. If we want a detailed description of this stuff, we should > describe what happens on Windows much more accurately. I wrote this description consulting the doc string of selection-coding-system rather than the code in w32select.c. Any corrections are welcome, of course. We do want the manual to enter into more detail on this subject, since many packages are now trying to undertake selection transfer themselves, being subsequently caught on snags occasioned by the absence of thorough documentation. Snags attached to thorny stems of bramble, as it were.