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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>, Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Turning on savehist-mode by default
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 15:17:48 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttphlqlo.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s0d34x1q050.fsf@yahoo.com>

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:
> Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
>
>> That would be a real problem if the information saved by savehist-mode
>> were of grave importance.
>>
>> Completion input histories are not usually in that category. People
>> can repeat their inputs manually; it's just a time-saving feature.
>
> It is a nuisance for Emacs to display outdated completion history if it
> is abruptly killed:

I agree that outdated completion history is a nuisance.  However, isn't
outdated completion history better than none?

> anyone who has run multiple bash shells in parallel,
> and thus played the guessing game of "which shell's history has been
> preserved?" will concur.

I definitely find the bash history experience extremely annoying.  It
happens even when bash is exited cleanly - it's just a consequence of
the fact that bash overwrites the previous history when exiting, rather
than combining them in some way.

Emacs isn't commonly run in parallel, and when it is, at least for me
there's always one main Emacs instance which outlives the others.  So we
shouldn't have the bash experience.  But still: I'd be happy to
implement some history merging behavior so we don't get the bash history
experience, if that's a requirement for savehist-mode to be turned on by
default.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-19 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-18 14:54 Turning on savehist-mode by default sbaugh
2023-11-18 16:33 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-18 18:19   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-18 21:06     ` Drew Adams
2023-11-18 21:42       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-18 23:01         ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19  6:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19  6:56             ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19  7:05           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-19  7:32             ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-19  8:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19  9:06                 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-19  9:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 15:09                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20  9:53                 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 12:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 13:15                     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 14:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 15:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 16:31                           ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 16:57                     ` Drew Adams
2023-11-20 18:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 18:54                         ` Drew Adams
2023-11-20 19:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 16:42               ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 16:42             ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 16:27         ` Visuwesh
2023-11-19 17:33           ` sbaugh
2023-11-19  6:59 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19  7:10   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19  7:27     ` Po Lu
2023-11-19  8:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:08   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 14:38     ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 14:43       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-20  0:11         ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 15:17       ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2023-11-20  0:09         ` Po Lu
2023-11-20  3:15           ` sbaugh
2023-11-20  3:40             ` Po Lu
2023-11-20 14:32               ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20  5:55         ` [OT] Not clobbering bash history brickviking
2023-11-20 17:50           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-22  3:01           ` [OT] " Richard Stallman
2023-11-22  3:32             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-22 20:43               ` Jens Schmidt via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-11-22 21:50                 ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-11-23 12:42                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-23 20:12                     ` Jens Schmidt via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-11-25  2:58               ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-26 10:20                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-12-04  3:10                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-04 13:05                     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-12-07  2:49                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-07  5:34                         ` mbork
2023-12-07  5:48                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-07  9:34                             ` mbork
2023-12-07  5:52                           ` Yuri Khan
2023-12-07  6:22                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-07  6:44                         ` Jean Louis
2023-12-11 12:09                           ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-12-07 13:06                         ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-12-08  3:56                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-08 10:15                             ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-12-08  3:54                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-08  6:22                         ` brickviking
2023-12-08 10:13                         ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-12-08  3:54                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 18:56   ` Turning on savehist-mode by default Stefan Kangas
2023-11-20  3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-20  3:16   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-28 11:04 ` Thanos Apollo
2023-11-28 14:11   ` Thanos Apollo
2023-11-28 14:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-28 21:07     ` Adam Porter
2023-11-28 21:46       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-29 12:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01  1:50 ` Björn Bidar
2023-12-16 19:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-16 19:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-16 22:57     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-16 23:57       ` Po Lu
2023-12-17  5:42         ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17  7:49           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-17 11:09             ` Adam Porter
2023-12-22 10:45               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-22 11:48                 ` Visuwesh
2023-12-22 11:52                 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-22 14:22                   ` Yuri Khan
2023-12-17 12:02             ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:19             ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17 12:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19  3:49                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-17 18:48           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-17  7:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:48           ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 12:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 13:31               ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 13:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 17:55                   ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 18:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 19:51                       ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 20:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 20:21                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 20:38                           ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 20:52                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 21:12                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:16                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 21:47                                   ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 22:22                                     ` Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:57                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 22:34                                       ` Drew Adams
2023-12-18  0:47                           ` Po Lu
2023-12-18  3:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17  7:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 10:03         ` tomas

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