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From: Daniel Mendler via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 66554@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#66554: [PATCH] Add the public API of Compat to the core
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:52:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttn96cho.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sf2tx1uq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:40:29 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:33:31 -0800
>> Cc: mail@daniel-mendler.de, 66554@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> >> +** New package Compat
>> >> +The Compat package on GNU ELPA provides forwards-compatibility
>> >> +support, so that packages that still provide support for older
>> >
>> > I think this is known as "backward compatibility".
>> 
>> AFAIU, backwards-compatibility is about making code written for Emacs 28
>> work without changes on Emacs 29 (N -> N+1).
>> 
>> But forwards-compatibility is about making code written for Emacs 29
>> work without changes on Emacs 28 (N -> N-1).
>> 
>> Compat is doing the latter.
>
> AFAIU, Compat allows Lisp programs written for newer Emacs version to
> work with older Emacs versions.  This makes those Lisp programs
> compatible with old versions of Emacs, and in my book this is
> backwards-compatibility.  But if I'm the only one who thinks that, so
> be it.

That's right. To formulate this differently, Compat allows Lisp programs
written for old Emacs versions to use newer Emacs features. This makes
Compat a forwards-compatibility library for the newer Emacs features.

The difference is what you consider the base line Emacs version. A
package could for example specify `Package-Requires: ((emacs "27.1")
(compat "29.1"))' in its package header. The header means that the
package was written for an old Emacs (27.1) but takes advantage of newer
features (29.1).

However one may also say that the package is actually for 29.1 and
was back-ported via Compat to 27.1. This could indeed have happened if
one looks at the history of the package.

Daniel





  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-19  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-15  9:35 bug#66554: [PATCH] Add the public API of Compat to the core Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-10 22:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-11  5:27   ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-11  7:54     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11  8:06       ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-11 17:35         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11 17:58           ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-11 19:24             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11 20:11               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-11 20:24                 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-11 20:43                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11 21:01                     ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 16:29                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-12 18:05                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 18:17                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-12 18:29                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 18:40                               ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 20:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 22:27                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-13  6:44                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-13 12:23                                       ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-18 19:51                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-18 20:17                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-18 20:33                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-19  6:40                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19  6:52                                                 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-01-18 20:35                                             ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-19  6:43                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19  6:57                                                 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-19 16:44                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-19 18:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-24  6:23                                                   ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-26  7:58                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-26 10:42                                                       ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-26 12:35                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-01 15:53                                                           ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-02  8:11                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-02 12:36                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-06 19:10                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-06 19:37                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-06 19:59                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-07 17:15                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-07 17:31                                                                     ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-07 17:43                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08  7:40                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-08  8:21                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 10:47                                                                           ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-10 16:29                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-10 16:36                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 16:46                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-10 17:20                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 17:40                                                                                   ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-10 17:47                                                                                     ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-10 18:03                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 18:00                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 18:14                                                                                       ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-10 19:12                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 21:52                                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-18 20:47                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-19  6:47                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-18 20:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-18 20:41                                             ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-18 23:34                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-19  5:49                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-19  6:42                                                 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12  8:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 20:24                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11 20:40                   ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12  7:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12  7:38                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-12 11:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 10:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 19:35     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-11 20:07       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-12  7:12         ` Eli Zaretskii

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