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Fri, 01 Mar 2024 15:35:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:07:54 -0500") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qcIqhyodSIpNBWiYLAmpr34ct7OiAIDQq/wslShfWsG3jzVeHGk f6B/YZSNmu+pSdYSOLZ9JZa9glzsX7rxoFvZ8sDokJSP6dcUaCYE13odMHnb+5Xzmv9UeTb pkQI1FwbvWsejzNcPYbuqKMZzh/2d/ph8VnV7uAAMVrQxDGB1cKN9A44lDpoh9bb0nzX1CF 5jFlfzwxM0Uo4hOMKyp3w== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:86oIiknP4X0=;BLU3U+7RIK4xXPQ32DQxv9z4ZkQ zxwjOC42tMlfbFKntVQf8nZH7Gm7JiM850iA2pBP5ZRliWSwSiBCZ9ONQMXeYyoubg4ZWzrQs QdKbRYSSmMQdA2p43vAv2HRZUNlbGNse6Fkt/Pd+x2LvtQO+runI2JtVlwJY05AcpNoW+6KN4 8Niur1/Tv0synQPlZzbB/M98duvuCcJeLfykhRLQHVBMESyKAsU0xZIFjg0uUvae5mfzua6be x2W6dKl0xXhA48c/ajY6CecSDYIXhRxDt88h6TJWSte0ROnvPT2/8BG8N/VBWQYfd3IVpYqDC Rw3OexkHYcVqfPdpolpZSbKK/exWjTGodD00jxHxCCtgLpLVlvWvSyQHAnxVU1k0fKW0aXxmw p7a8DWuKUr7MwvsV0dEsHSB4YtJgkyCv7/gNhOh/HnM0QznAYCiWud2cDXg3vGoUx8xo5tpYg m/y8rrhSXENyD9WaWOVf6ZYJIB4AUnyYPyDqxZbt1Z5V4UFrOrjh4mQvaWgEhqBt83q4X394B ZeK7PbDuGyVAxDoliCwRuE0SSHUz3HuXQZZttp6T3Fd0k3I5k/bZLn1VKDQKgWyxteH6a0cgz Wwk9JyAhYWlgD1w0e+rStmfihcgAV+TyAC0+TU/E312Ew7vbFV2lcYGSIg4lM9jl7xlBST1F9 WwPhxH7agJB1OYSKVi/1lyzFvrhv0IjK/AloVlRJpzjGcW2cbTEKefrPxYCueQy0sXQuktbJ0 zzqgTyfrzHhw7sbVooWnpC6ipm3zPJnEMI5FnIjjjA0xGot1YpdPJlMQZmgaZ2oCy37OL9eS X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:280865 Archived-At: On Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:07:54 -0500 Andrea Corallo wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >> On Fri, 01 Mar 2024 15:41:24 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> [...] >>> My suggestion was to compare profiles in the byte-compiled and >>> native-compiled cases. >>> >>> Btw, are you running both cases in the same session? If so, don't: >>> restart Emacs and run the other case instead. >> >> Ok, I've now done that. Here's the report for the run with native >> compilation: >> >> 12599 95% - command-execute >> 12487 95% - funcall-interactively >> 12486 95% - eval-expression >> 12485 95% - # >> 12485 95% - # >> 12480 95% - eval >> 12480 95% - progn >> 12367 94% - benchmark-call >> 12367 94% - # >> 12367 94% build-sieve >> 113 0% - emacs-lisp-native-compile-and-load >> 113 0% - emacs-lisp-native-compile >> 113 0% - native-compile > > IIUC this is profiling the native compilation itself. > > BTW I'd suggest the profile is done with perf (and running batch). I don't have perf installed, but I build the kernel from source, so I guess I could build and install perf, but... > Given you see on your machine similar times for native and byte compiled > the expected outcome should be tha tthe time is spent in some C routine > of our core. If you consider ~12.7 (native-compiled) and ~9.6 (byte-compiled), similar for this benchmark, and since Eli said it's expected that native-compiled elisp can be slower than byte-compiled elisp for some programs, then I guess I can just accept that for this case, the difference between my timings is within a reasonable margin of error and not due to some problem with my libgccjit (which I also built and installed myself). Steve Berman