From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrate Tramp Date: 22 Jun 2002 21:43:21 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87sn3f8owm.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <200206220721.g5M7LCqR016474@sbcs.cs.sunysb.edu> <87wusr93lm.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024749925 8437 127.0.0.1 (22 Jun 2002 12:45:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kifer@cs.sunysb.edu (Michael Kifer), rms@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17LkGb-0002By-00 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:45:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17LkjF-0002x8-00 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:15:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17LkGP-0003Ll-00; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 08:45:13 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.131]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17LkFk-0003E1-00; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 08:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from tc-2-238.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.25.238] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 17LkFi-0002EN-00; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:44:31 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 408D230A4; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:43:22 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 27 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5092 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5092 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > It's probably only a matter of taste, but I prefer >=20 > /method#user@host#port:file >=20 > The reason I like to have the method first is that I think of the > equivalent shell command, say "ssh kai@fencepost", and then translate > it to a filename, say "/sm#kai@fencepost:/tmp". Well, which is more important -- the address, or the method used to make the connection? I'd say the former (the address), by far; the method is basically just a temporary detail. I'd also say that the most important component should come first, since that allows users to worry about the details after they've typed in the part that matters. [In practice, actually, I'd hope that the defaults can be set up so the user usually doesn't have to type the method at all. For instance, it could remember the method type used for a given host/user, and automatically install that as the default for subsequent references to the same host/user.] -Miles --=20 Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. -- Jerry Garcia