From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: gnu@vsnl.net (Ramakrishnan M) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Malayalam rendering Date: 24 Feb 2003 11:32:51 +0530 Organization: Free Software for the Free World Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87smuecj1w.fsf@vsnl.net> References: <874r6ukjqy.fsf@vsnl.net> <200302240053.JAA25073@etlken.m17n.org> <87isva4bmn.fsf@vsnl.net> <200302240545.OAA25500@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046066561 25889 80.91.224.249 (24 Feb 2003 06:02:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18nBhG-0006jJ-00 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:02:38 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18nBwa-0000hS-00 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:18:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nBgH-0007QR-02 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:01:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nBft-0007GP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:01:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nBfl-00070F-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:01:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [219.65.164.192] (helo=alpha) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nBfi-0006x4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from rkrishnan by alpha with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18nBhT-00008G-00; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:32:51 +0530 Original-To: Kenichi Handa X-GnuPG-KeyID: 0x6A9F3C38 X-GnuPG-Fingerprint: CC18 3BF4 9D17 1DA7 E11E 67D3 1729 F586 6A9F 3C38 In-Reply-To: <200302240545.OAA25500@etlken.m17n.org> Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-cc: kawabata@m17n.org Original-cc: gnu@vsnl.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11896 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11896 || On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:45:24 +0900 (JST) || Kenichi Handa wrote: kh> http://fsf.org.in/projects/malayalam-gpl/gpl-ml-unicode-pre.txt kh> I checked the contents. Those empty boxes are ZWJ kh> characters. But, it seems strange that we need so many ZWJ kh> for Malayalam writing. One issue is that the Malayalam section as it is, now in the Unicode standard has problems. There is a set of 5 characters called "Chillaksharam" which are not there in the standard. TDIL (some organization in Govt of India which does language related work) has proposed some new changes, which sort of, solves this issue. So current tools handle "chillaksharams" is their own non-standard way. One way is ++. This might be a reason you see alot of ZWJ in that text. I may be wrong though... -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Use Free Software -- Help stamp out Software Hoarding!