From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexander Pohoyda Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL, MIME-related bug Date: 20 Oct 2003 07:53:42 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87smlocv4p.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> References: <200310121947.h9CJlhKH006102@oak.pohoyda.family> <6480-Thu16Oct2003192118+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <3405-Thu16Oct2003205828+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <9003-Fri17Oct2003082402+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <6480-Sat18Oct2003102948+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066629428 23714 80.91.224.253 (20 Oct 2003 05:57:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 20 07:57:06 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABT2Q-0003LG-00 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:57:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABT2P-0005py-00 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:57:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABT06-0002mD-8R for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:54:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ABT01-0002m7-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:54:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ABSzU-0002l3-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:54:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABSzU-0002km-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 18630 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Oct 2003 05:54:00 -0000 Original-Received: from p508BF3D1.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.243.209) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 20 Oct 2003 07:54:00 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14602519 Original-Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9K5rpCN000604; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:53:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Original-Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h9K5rhkf000601; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:53:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17255 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17255 Richard Stallman writes: > > We certainly would not document a MIME library in the Emacs Lisp > > manual, because it is useful only for mail readers, and that is too > > specialized. > > It is no less specialized than primitives like base64-decode-region. > > Those are primitives, and they are simple to document. > > Anyway, I'm just telling you what our policy is. Not every Emacs Lisp > facility has to be documented in the Emacs Lisp manual. After I implemented it myself, I have found 2 more implementations of quoted-printable primitives in Emacs/lisp tree. Guess why? Because "Describe function" had no idea that they are already implemented and I haven't found them in Emacs Lisp manual. Would I even found them at the beginning, I would not dare to use the one from Gnus, because: * it belongs to different project in my eyes. * gnus/qp.el requires mm-util, which I neither need nor want right now. base64 functions are built-in, though. 2Lars: Only first 7 lines of the References header field are highlighted in Gnus v5.9.0 and sorry, if this is already fixed. -- Alexander Pohoyda PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72 15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44