From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "MIT/GNU/Linux" Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:21:03 +1100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87slevjxm8.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <87odpmlnze.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87ejqikz0d.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87lkkot6ye.fsf@kobe.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167619309 29767 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2007 02:41:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 01 03:41:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H1D7T-0000kM-UO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2007 03:41:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H1D7T-0007k4-AT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:41:47 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-05!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jrulQGSx3Vu2x6ckxjK4TdE6qCU= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 65 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:144465 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:40068 Archived-At: Giorgos Keramidas writes: > On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:28:50 +1100, Tim X wrote: >>Giorgos Keramidas writes: >>> First of all, there are other examples where "parts" have a different >>> name from the "whole". Consider for example the fine difference >>> between "SunOS" and "The Solaris Operating Environment" :) >> >> Can you expand on this point? > > "Solaris" is considered to be the "SunOS" operating system, plus a > graphical user environment, and a few other components. > >> I'm asking as this seems to contradict what I was told by Sun and >> other sys admins and recall reading some years ago. My understanding >> is that sunOS was what Sun called the operating system they had prior >> to Solaris. > > "SunOS" 4.X was BSD-based. Sun replaced the BSD-based core of the > system with a System V derivative, creating SunOS release 5.0. At the > same time, a new marketing name was introduced for SunOS 5.0 and it > accompanying set of components. This name was "Solaris 2". > >> When they brought out Solaris, they faced a bit of industry resistance >> and released SunOS (I can't remember, but think it might have been >> v4.5 or v5.4 or something like that), which was essentially the same >> as solaris (v2.3?). > > There is a nice table of Solaris vs. SunOS versions here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_Operating_System > > I can't verify the correctness of *all* these release versions, but it > may help a bit. > Thanks. Its always worth getting clarification on this sort of stuff. I didn't have to administer a solaris system for very long and I didn't like it very much at the time (I was more experienced with OSF/Digital Unix). This was solaris 2.4 I think and it had a few issues - the sendmail bundled with it was buggy, there were problems with defunct processes hanging around forever and a few other irritating but not critical problems. What was really interesting was I replaced solaris with one of the early Linux sparc ports and was very amazed at the performance/speed improvement we got. I had thought the sparc hardware was over priced and slow, but once we had GNU linux on it, it was merely over priced. It actually gave us a really solid and reliable server for quite some time. The people I was working for were really amazed at the uptime we got and the performance. I was happy because I was able to install emacs on it (I had problems getting emacs installed under solaris, I can't remember what the exact problem was, but I had to tweak the build to get it to compile and then it segfaulted quite often). I think it did have xemacs installed, but one of the key elisp packages I needed wouldn't run under xemacs, so it was no good to me. This is why Ive stuck with GNU Emacs rather than Xemacs - some of the packages I use the most just won't run under Xemacs because of font lock differences. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au