From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc patch: "Saving Properties" merge into "Format Conversion" Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 13:51:52 +0900 Message-ID: <87slaav9jr.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87ps5m2s7z.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87bqh3zi91.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <17978.34192.154994.884454@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17979.51666.93559.254397@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17981.10185.173469.54017@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178427133 3723 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2007 04:52:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 04:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 06 06:52:12 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkYjB-0001XA-0g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 06:52:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkYpz-0005R4-Cn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 00:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkYpv-0005LQ-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 00:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkYpt-0005Ej-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 00:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkYpt-0005E9-69 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 00:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp02.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.72]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HkYj2-0004RK-5r; Sun, 06 May 2007 00:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from 203-216-99-129.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.99.129] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1HkYiy-0002A2-Cx; Sun, 06 May 2007 13:51:56 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2D732F40; Sun, 6 May 2007 13:51:52 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <17981.10185.173469.54017@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Sun\, 6 May 2007 12\:56\:41 +1200") Original-Lines: 24 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70582 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > It's not so much about what is right, but what is reasonable. With social > issues, that's normally decided collectively, as with a jury in a court of > law. Richard's actions towards the release aren't perfect, but in general things seem like they're getting there. There are some people who apparently think hysterics, apocalyptic predictions, and sheer volume are the key to promoting their point of view. I also disagree with some of Richard's ideas (e.g. releasing 22.2 from the trunk, the microseconds/milliseconds/whatever patch), but I don't think screaming and moaning is going to solve a damn thing, particularly at a time when the right thing to do is move carefully and deliberately. Grow up people. You can disagree without acting like a spoiled 2 year old. -miles -- [|nurgle|] ddt- demonic? so quake will have an evil kinda setting? one that will make every christian in the world foamm at the mouth? [iddt] nurg, that's the goal