From: Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net>
To: Nic James Ferrier <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk>
Cc: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org,
"Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org>
Subject: Re: A wish, a plea
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:36:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sl8kzuxv.fsf@lionel.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87odj9ruby.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> (Nic James Ferrier's message of "Thu\, 21 Jun 2007 20\:17\:05 +0100")
Nic James Ferrier <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk> writes:
> Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> writes:
>
>> Emacs gives the user total control, but that does not diminish the
>> importance of choosing reasonable defaults. The current *scratch*
>> buffer is a punitive default; Hacksaw is suggesting that we choose
>> another default.
>
> I agree.
>
> I don't use it as a default.
>
> I really do use *scratch* for all sorts of things. But it shouldn't be
> the default.
>
> Maybe a ~/notes or ~/.emacs.d/notes ?
As far as ~/notes goes, what if it already exists? And doesn't have
anything to do with Emacs? If I started Emacs for the first time and
saw some seemingly random text file, I'd be confused.
An empty buffer, on the other hand, may not be a bad idea. Maybe in
fundamental mode.
I actually don't have a problem with *scratch* because I see it as
kind of a starting area. Emacs isn't second-guessing what I want to
do, it's very close to having a blank slate. In fact, it's a lot like
booting your computer -- once it loads you've got the whole command
set available to you. If you want to write a file, read your email,
or play Tetris, it's up to you to input the command to do so. And
besides, I do use *scratch* frequently to work on various smaller
Emacs customizations.
My counter-wish (and plea) would be that if any changes are made to
the default behavior, that an option be added to ensure that my
*scratch* is dutifully created each time I load Emacs.
Best regards.
--
Taylor Venable
taylor@metasyntax.net
http://www.metasyntax.net/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-22 0:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-21 3:49 A wish, a plea Hacksaw
2007-06-21 18:50 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-21 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-21 19:12 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-22 3:59 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 19:07 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-21 19:17 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-21 21:53 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-06-22 0:36 ` Taylor Venable [this message]
2007-06-21 19:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 3:57 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 20:56 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 6:27 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 21:36 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 17:27 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 21:19 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-21 21:26 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 6:36 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 22:08 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-21 23:04 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 6:51 ` csant
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 20:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-25 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 21:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-25 21:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 8:03 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-22 8:11 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 8:21 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 8:33 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-22 12:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 12:51 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 13:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 13:16 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-22 18:46 ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-22 19:50 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 19:58 ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-22 20:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-22 10:23 ` Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Stephen Berman
2007-06-22 11:43 ` Initial splash screen David Kastrup
2007-06-22 14:19 ` Stephen Berman
2007-06-22 20:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 23:07 ` Stephen Berman
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 22:11 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-23 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 14:57 ` Initial splash screen David Kastrup
2007-06-22 22:46 ` Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Stephen Berman
2007-06-23 6:42 ` Initial splash screen David Kastrup
2007-06-23 10:43 ` Stephen Berman
2007-06-23 18:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 19:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 13:34 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-25 13:38 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 18:51 ` A wish, a plea Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 20:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-23 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 14:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-23 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-24 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 19:02 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-06-28 1:04 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 16:36 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 6:21 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-23 18:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 18:58 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-06-23 19:07 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-24 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 19:47 ` Hacksaw
2007-06-24 15:13 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-24 17:18 ` Hacksaw
2007-06-24 23:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 8:07 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-21 23:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-22 7:57 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-22 8:01 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 8:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 8:32 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 9:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 9:20 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 9:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 8:01 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-22 8:15 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 8:19 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-22 11:58 ` David House
2007-06-22 8:20 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 13:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 13:33 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 14:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-22 14:34 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 15:10 ` David House
2007-06-22 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-23 23:48 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-06-24 0:06 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 0:15 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-24 1:17 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 10:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-24 14:05 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 14:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-24 14:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 20:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-25 21:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 8:41 ` Glyn Millington
2007-06-22 11:54 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 12:33 ` Glyn Millington
2007-06-22 9:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 14:02 ` Denis Bueno
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