From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:31:21 GMT Organization: Sonera Customer Message-ID: <87skop8cc7.fsf@iki.fi> References: <2103fd36-c5cd-4e8d-a74f-34697a369934@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <003101c954de$f95a3000$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229370054 13573 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2008 19:40:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:40:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 20:42:00 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LCJKG-0005ya-0L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:41:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51360 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCJJ4-00089V-0a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:40:42 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed1.swip.net!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!feeder1.news.saunalahti.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central1.inet.fi!inet.fi!read4.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ze7BdfxkncNyxFFyDcS2DViZuqo= Original-Lines: 35 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.220.180.181 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi Original-X-Trace: read4.inet.fi 1229369481 80.220.180.181 (Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:31:21 EET) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:31:21 EET Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:165306 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60638 Archived-At: Leo (2008-12-15 18:24 +0000) wrote: > On 2008-12-14 21:37 +0000, Xah Lee wrote: >> I really feel sorry emacs's user base is dying. The most important >> thing i think is to get emacs to use modern terminologies and be >> compatible with the minimum of standard modern UI. > > Users are not scared off by Emacs's UI. It is more important its > functionality. Are people being scared off in the first place? I mean more than normally. :-) I don't know but at least among Debian GNU/Linux users Emacs's popularity doesn't seem to have decreased. Here's a Debian popularity contest[1] graph that shows the popularity of packages emacs21, emacs21-nox, emacs22, emacs22-nox and emacs22-gtk: http://preview.tinyurl.com/55stry [2] The graph shows that Emacs22 started gaining popularity around mid-2007 (the release) and Emacs21 started losing it. Those summed together Emacs is no less popular than before. The latest official Debian release (4.0 "Etch") includes Emacs21. This popularity measurement category is called "vote". It means that user has accessed (atime) the files in the package within 30 days. It roughly means that the software is actually being used, not only installed. --------------- [1] http://popcon.debian.org/ [2] http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=emacs21%2Cemacs21-nox%2Cemacs22%2Cemacs22-gtk%2Cemacs22-nox&show_vote=on&want_legend=on&from_date=&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1