From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bogus binding of C-w in isearch editing mode Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:19:47 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87skomfff0.fsf@jurta.org> References: <873agnsk1q.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <874p13r3kl.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229563311 28239 80.91.229.12 (18 Dec 2008 01:21:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 18 02:22:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LD7bE-0000tc-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:22:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LD7a2-0003Cq-K0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:21:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LD7Zy-0003Cj-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:21:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LD7Zv-0003CX-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:21:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55781 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LD7Zv-0003CU-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:51453) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LD7Zs-0008Bz-Fz; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LD7Zp-0004cm-MV; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:21:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:47:24 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 367251710ae6d8069d2a2bb66b314d03 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 6325 [Dec 18 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107016 Archived-At: >>> This was intended for a gradual transition from the old word-search binding >>> to the normal kill-region binding (declaring it obsolete in the next release >>> and rebinding it in another release). > >> That's reasonable enough in the normal isearch interaction loop, >> but not in isearch _editing mode_. > >> In editing mode isearch simply shouldn't be binding C-w at all. > > You're right, but C-w in edit mode was IIUC the only way to switch to > word-search (!?!). > > I wouldn't mind switch to a normal C-w, personally. Done. This half-finished change of replacing an obsolete `C-w' in the isearch editing minibuffer with `M-s w' was already mentioned in NEWS in the section "Incompatible Editing Changes". So no more changes for an incremental word search are necessary in NEWS. I only added a few words about starting a *nonincremental* word search using `M-s w RET' and `M-s w C-r RET' instead of `C-s RET C-w' and `C-r RET C-w' (with other related fixes). -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/