From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3640: I can't see all characters in my files anymore Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:43:32 +0800 Message-ID: <87skhrwtyj.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87prcwf3e5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 3640@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245725860 23733 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2009 02:57:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3640@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: cyd@stupidchicken.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 23 04:57:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MIwCX-00059d-29 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:57:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57475 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MIwCW-0008Qg-5d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MIwCQ-0008Q0-46 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:57:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MIwCL-0008Lq-US for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52945 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MIwCL-0008Lm-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:57:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:56582) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MIwCL-000621-1V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:57:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5N2vMbK013481; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:57:23 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5N2o6E8012097; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:50:06 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:50:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3640 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: notabug wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 3640-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3640.124572502211168 (code B ref 3640); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:50:06 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3640) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Jun 2009 02:43:42 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (balanced.mail.policyd.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.119]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5N2hcN4011160 for <3640@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:43:39 -0700 Original-Received: from jidanni.org (122-127-32-26.dynamic.hinet.net [122.127.32.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CCC415B1; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by rzlab.ucr.edu id n5N2vMbK013481 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:57:29 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28918 Archived-At: >>>>> "CY" =3D=3D Chong Yidong writes: >> Help, I'm now shipping files to people with all kinds of embedded junk >> in them like >> | character: =E2=80=8E (8206, #o20016, #x200e) >> |preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) >> | code point: 0x200E >> | syntax: . which means: punctuation >> | buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x8E >> | file code: #xE2 #x80 #x8E (encoded by coding system utf-8-uni= x) >> | display: by this font (glyph code) >> | xft:-unknown-FreeSans-normal-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x8F1) >> | >> |Character code properties: customize what to show >> | name: LEFT-TO-RIGHT MARK >> | general-category: Cf (Other, Format) >> all because I can't see them anymore now that I use emacs23. CY> Your font claims to be able to display character code 8206. So, Emac= s CY> does not get in the way. This is not a bug. Yes and I'm sure it does display it properly: the proper way is to make it disappear, as it is a special direction changing character and not a normal character. This is where emacs needs to step in and give the user a way to be aware his file contains such things. Just like whitespace mode makes one aware one has whitespace. I'll see if whitespace.el will fill my needs...