From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: 23.1.90.1; menu, toolbars vs. constant size Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:18:28 +0800 Message-ID: <87skafykq3.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <4B45C336.6050605@swipnet.se> Reply-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 3643@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263025161 8265 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2010 08:19:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3643@debbugs.gnu.org To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 09:19:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTWXP-0007UW-IU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:19:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53561 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTWXP-0002SV-8p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:19:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTWXK-0002Rn-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:19:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTWXF-0002LL-5S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49358 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTWXF-0002LC-2a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:19:01 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38783) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTWXE-0002Yf-MU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:19:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTWFq-0004RH-HP; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 3643@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3643 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3643.126302402317052 (code B ref 3643); Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2010 08:00:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTWFD-0004Qz-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:00:23 -0500 Original-Received: from caiajhbdcaib.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.81] helo=homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTWFC-0004Qu-9E for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-6-130.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.6.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2927E41900; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 00:00:18 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:01:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34100 Archived-At: !.Xresources Emacs.toolBar: 0 Emacs.menuBar: 0 and emacs -q it turns out work... unless one wants to use a different font! Then one needs -mm. Is there any way to put the -mm into .emacs? or does one need a shell wrapper? emacs-version "23.1.91.1" Anyway, my point still remains, the user's first encounter with $ emacs # just won't fit on many people's screens. At least under icewm. I don't know any other program that acts like that right out of the box.