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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121422 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > There's also the bzr-diffstat plugin, which shows a bit more about the > > uncommitted changes than "bzr status". > > diffstats are nice for VCS geeks, but what Robert needed to know was > just the files. > > I've updated BzrForEmacsDevs. I ended up adding a bzr status before > each commit in each sample workflow; this may be too obtrusive, feel > free to edit. I couldn't see any good way to ensure that readers would > always notice the "vcs means never having to say you're sorry, but > ..." blurb at the top. > > I'll take a look at the QuickStart document after dinner. This is about basic VC usage here. The QuickStart is not intended to teach the basic rules of a VC system (nor the BzrForEmacsDevs document intends that, I think) This was about teaching Emacs hackers with a long CVS experience how to switch to Bazaar. I'm sure that doing a blind commit was deemed as an unaceptable practice on the CVS days too, and the checks are similar (`diff'). So making the documents more verbose/tedious for covering this case is not necessary, IMHO. But I see that you already edited the file. This looks confusing to me: > Optionally, before doing ##bzr commit##, you can do ##bzr status## to > view the changed and unknown files which will be committed." it can be interpreted as if `bzr commit' will commit unknown files. And then this: > Typically unknown files are newly added. In > order to track changes in them, use the ##bzr add## command and then > commit them: > * ##bzr add new-file ...## > * ##bzr commit new-file ...## may be read as recommending that the procedure for tracking a new file is adding it and committing, instead of including it on the commit of the rest of edited files. And no, I don't want to waste my time editing wikis anymore, so feel free to ignore the comments above.