From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:15:14 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87sk7y2gh9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100317.200901.408057447.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268902309 10083 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 08:51:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:51:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 09:51:45 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsBSB-0006sQ-8f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:51:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49762 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsBHd-00044a-OK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsAxg-00089A-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42633 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsAxb-00086G-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsAxZ-0002rY-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:57428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsAxY-0002rM-VM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsAxW-0003M2-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:20:02 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2262.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.34.98]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:20:02 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2262.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:20:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2262.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z1qz5kfAF3p8i+GXQp3Riihit3o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122144 Archived-At: Harald Hanche-Olsen writes: > + David Kastrup : > >> "Drew Adams" writes: >> >> >> telling users ... about the advantage having delsel-mode off. >> > >> > There is none. >> >> You can set the mark, move somewhere else, type stuff there, and return >> using C-x C-x, again typing stuff there, without destroying anything you >> have written. > > You can still do that with delete-selection-mode turned on; you just > need to hit C-g to deactivate the mark before starting typing in the > new location. And get a bell. In the course of a normal editing operation. We are talking about the beginner setup, remember? The beginner that did not yet customize things (like visible-bell) because he does not know how. The beginner that tries Emacs in an office full of people. Not that this beginner will have a clue about C-g anyway: he'll just have to figure out a different way to deactivate the region if he is ever going to type another character. -- David Kastrup