* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
@ 2011-08-24 15:57 Drew Adams
2011-08-24 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Drew Adams @ 2011-08-24 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 9358
emacs -Q
There is nothing about file attributes indexed in the manual (except
`w32-get-true-file-attributes). At least index function
`file-attributes', and possible also `file attributes'.
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2011-08-22 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt'
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 15:57 bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual Drew Adams
@ 2011-08-24 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 17:04 ` Drew Adams
2011-08-24 17:04 ` Sean Sieger
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-08-24 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 9358
> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:57:34 -0700
>
> emacs -Q
>
> There is nothing about file attributes indexed in the manual (except
> `w32-get-true-file-attributes). At least index function
> `file-attributes', and possible also `file attributes'.
??? file-attributes _is_ indexed. It must be, as every function and
variable described in the ELisp manual is automatically indexed by the
program that generates the manual.
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2011-08-24 17:04 ` Drew Adams
2011-08-24 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 17:04 ` Sean Sieger
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2011-08-24 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 'Eli Zaretskii'; +Cc: 9358
> > There is nothing about file attributes indexed in the manual (except
> > `w32-get-true-file-attributes). At least index function
> > `file-attributes', and possible also `file attributes'.
>
> ??? file-attributes _is_ indexed. It must be, as every function and
> variable described in the ELisp manual is automatically indexed by the
> program that generates the manual.
Sorry, I meant the Emacs manual. All of what I wrote applies to the Emacs
manual, but I mistyped the Subject line.
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 17:04 ` Drew Adams
@ 2011-08-24 17:04 ` Sean Sieger
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-08-24 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 9358
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:57:34 -0700
>
> emacs -Q
>
> There is nothing about file attributes indexed in the manual (except
> `w32-get-true-file-attributes). At least index function
> `file-attributes', and possible also `file attributes'.
??? file-attributes _is_ indexed. It must be, as every function and
variable described in the ELisp manual is automatically indexed by the
program that generates the manual.
On checking, I think Drew's referring to the Emacs manual.
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 17:04 ` Drew Adams
@ 2011-08-24 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 17:57 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-08-24 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 9358
> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: <9358@debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:04:08 -0700
>
> > > There is nothing about file attributes indexed in the manual (except
> > > `w32-get-true-file-attributes). At least index function
> > > `file-attributes', and possible also `file attributes'.
> >
> > ??? file-attributes _is_ indexed. It must be, as every function and
> > variable described in the ELisp manual is automatically indexed by the
> > program that generates the manual.
>
> Sorry, I meant the Emacs manual. All of what I wrote applies to the Emacs
> manual, but I mistyped the Subject line.
The Emacs manual does not document functions, only commands. Why
should a user worry about file-attributes?
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2011-08-24 17:57 ` Drew Adams
2011-08-24 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2011-08-24 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 'Eli Zaretskii'; +Cc: 9358
> The Emacs manual does not document functions, only commands. Why
> should a user worry about file-attributes?
Bzzzzzzzzt! Wrong, but thanks for playing.
The Emacs manual is not a reference manual. It does not provide reference doc
for functions. But it does provide information about some functions - and not
just commands.
And lo and behold, `file-attributes' is one of those functions that the Emacs
manual says something about. Please index that information. Thx.
Tip: You will have to search for it; it's not in the index. ;-)
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 17:57 ` Drew Adams
@ 2011-08-24 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 9:09 ` Juri Linkov
2011-09-11 2:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-08-24 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 9358
> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: <9358@debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:57:08 -0700
>
> And lo and behold, `file-attributes' is one of those functions that the Emacs
> manual says something about. Please index that information.
There's nothing it says that is worth indexing. The function's name is
mentioned, that's all.
Index entries are for something that is _described_. file-attributes
is not described in that manual, nor is there any significant
information pertaining to file-attributes that is in this manual.
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2011-08-25 9:09 ` Juri Linkov
2011-09-11 2:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2011-08-25 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 9358
>> And lo and behold, `file-attributes' is one of those functions that the Emacs
>> manual says something about. Please index that information.
>
> There's nothing it says that is worth indexing. The function's name is
> mentioned, that's all.
>
> Index entries are for something that is _described_. file-attributes
> is not described in that manual, nor is there any significant
> information pertaining to file-attributes that is in this manual.
It could provide a link/reference to the description of file-attributes
in the Elisp manual.
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* bug#9358: 24.0.50; please index `file-attributes' in Elisp manual
2011-08-24 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 9:09 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2011-09-11 2:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-11 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 9358
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> There's nothing it says that is worth indexing. The function's name is
> mentioned, that's all.
I agree.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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