From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vijay Lakshminarayanan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:11:37 +0530 Message-ID: <87sjmxknzi.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83lissxj9a.fsf@gnu.org> <87k48by7ex.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r52jfbrw.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k48bf1q9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <871uuh25ef.fsf@ktravel.red-bean.com> <87mxd5pjec.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318513330 18415 80.91.229.12 (13 Oct 2011 13:42:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , rms@gnu.org, John Wiegley , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Karl Fogel , schwab@linux-m68k.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 15:42:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RELXw-0006vA-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:42:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36384 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELXv-0003la-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:42:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44476) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELXp-0003lM-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELXo-0007MF-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:41:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:48208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RELXo-0007M4-Cl; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: by qadb17 with SMTP id b17so21356qad.0 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:41:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=c3HwZtWOyC0VNlpfKMd5jVkBHCQrcO8+MzhWZJ4Drd0=; b=CR2oifXgEzrke4TPg3K8D//3EgiBwYBVKWVAIoTS2XVRQiWvYgP7J/QBNB5t62uiC8 0ZvU9a926GpTSOSVRbrG/rtzz7RtMYRRIzdhPkEwLfIAaaIIQMi1/YLjGXzy9nugP2Pw 8eNpY0VhgVO7PeLmLtYLzlrT2XFXIPoNbSbpM= Original-Received: by 10.68.16.66 with SMTP id e2mr8876917pbd.116.1318513315617; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from BALROG ([115.184.118.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ji3sm11658422pbc.2.2011.10.13.06.41.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:41:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mxd5pjec.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:09:31 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.216.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145122 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: [snip] > If the "Use GNU" policy is to make sense, I think the criterion > proposed by Vijay Lakshminarayanan should be applied: > > The reason to support GNU projects over others is that it is the > stated goal of GNU that all distributed software should be Free > .... To this end, any software project that shares the same goals > will be supported. > > (Note: the omitted text was "and copylefted by law", which AFAIK is a > non-goal. Use of copyleft is a means to the goal of software freedom, > and will be impossible when copyright in software is abolished, which > AFAIK still is a particular goal in support of software freedom.) I don't think the FSF wants the elimination of copyright and I didn't intend that in my earlier post. My guess is that the FSF would welcome a law that said all software should be released with a copyleft license. [snip] -- Cheers ~vijay Gnus should be more complicated.