From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:48:05 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87sjjv5moq.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87fwfxtxuz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87aa64ubg9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83boqkr9bp.fsf@gnu.org> <874nwcu17i.fsf@wanadoo.es> <834nwcr6un.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcosskhc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <831urgr2yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4zgsh2w.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ipks3zbo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87boqk3q69.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325702920 16596 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 18:48:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:48:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 19:48:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVt1-0006xA-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:48:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57913 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVt0-0005kv-IT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:48:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42537) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVsw-0005ke-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:48:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVsv-0004vP-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:48:26 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:57076) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVsv-0004vB-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:48:25 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVss-0006rx-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:48:22 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:48:22 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:48:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1q29rN5/uLetcvtaE6DUDiCGR/M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147284 Archived-At: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:00:49 +0100 Juanma Barranquero wrote: JB> 2012/1/4 Ted Zlatanov : >> I am puzzled by this.  Why is it wrong to share the GnuTLS DLL? >> >> If you and Eli and other W32 experts say a standalone self-updating >> installer that drops a shared GnuTLS DLL in a common area is a bad idea, JB> I think is a good idea. Fortunately, we don't have to discuss it, JB> because Óscar "won't start discussing it" ;-) I'd like to discuss it with anyone willing. Joakim offered to help with the installer and I can probably follow a build recipe to make the DLLs, so practically it seems like we could do this. I just want to make sure I don't find out in a few days or weeks that the installer approach is flawed for some obscure W32 reason, which Óscar sort of implied. On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:10:23 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: EZ> Maybe then this thread will become anything but hand-waving. I think it makes sense to discuss approaches--I had not even thought of the GnuTLS installer approach until we had this conversation. Rushing into development can be fun, but can also hide good ideas. Ted