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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: 10773@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10773: set-variable can't change values of user options
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:18:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjijt2jv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5w1uq3lv3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:28:16 -0500")

>> Why users are allowed to change the value of `outline-mode-hook',
>> but not `outline-minor-mode-hook'?
>
> The former is defined with (defvar ... "*...").
> The latter is not defined anywhere, but as define-derived-mode says
> about hooks and has been covered several times:
>
>   No problems result if this variable is not bound.
>   `add-hook' automatically binds it.  (This is true for all hook variables.)
>
> I would says it's not very useful to pass a hook to set-variable anyway,
> since you need to type a lisp expression, and probably should use
> an explicit add-hook statement.

Currently William Stevenson is working on converting minor modes to use
`define-minor-mode', so more minor mode hooks will lose an ability to be
changed using `set-variable'.  I don't have an opinion whether this is
good or bad.  I just discovered the inconsistency between `outline-mode-hook'
and `outline-minor-mode-hook' when trying to set temporarily them
to the same value with `set-variable'.

What I still don't understand is why some hooks have "*" in the docstring.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-10 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-09  9:43 bug#10773: set-variable can't change values of user options Juri Linkov
2012-02-09 18:28 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-10  8:18   ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-02-10 10:18   ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2012-02-10 17:31     ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-10 18:01       ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-12  4:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 20:16           ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-13  2:58             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 15:21           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 15:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 15:49               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 16:04                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-20  9:14                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-21  0:40 ` Juri Linkov
2012-02-21 15:26   ` Drew Adams
2012-02-22  0:16     ` Juri Linkov

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