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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs and Guile
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:32:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjg82ikp.fsf@gnuvola.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1SIXmU-00035h-Ig@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:06:42 -0400")

() Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
() Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:06:42 -0400

   I agree it would be good if Guile worked on non-GNU systems.
   At the same time, we should be careful not to define support
   for non-GNU systems as part of our primary goal.
   That would be drifting in the direction of downgrading our real goal.

I completely agree, and should clarify that my comments were made
w/ only GNU in mind; difficult (or, depending on one's pov, dis-)
continuity exists even there, between Guile versions.

What happens in The Wild is that j.r.hacker discovers Guile 1.x,
uses it, discovers Guile 2.0, stumbles trying to get Working Code
to behave nicely under both, fails to find a sanctioned path, and
ultimately loses interest, in the process spreading disrespect
(for Guile and sometimes GNU) among peers.

The efforts i espouse are aimed at making the sanctioned path
easier to find (i am such a j.r.hacker personally struggling to
still the creeping disrespect).  IMO, to spread software freedom
necessarily involves internal bulwarking; the edge's advance is
mooted if the center falls.



  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-13  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-09 22:28 GSoC projects related to Emacs Bastien
2012-04-03  3:36 ` Leo
2012-04-10  7:09   ` Emacs and Guile (was: GSoC projects related to Emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-10  8:26     ` Emacs and Guile Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-10 10:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-10 12:17         ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-10 23:06     ` Leo
2012-04-11  6:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-10 23:57     ` BT Templeton
2012-04-11  7:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-11 11:31         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-11 12:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-11 17:28             ` Drew Adams
2012-04-11 19:15               ` BT Templeton
2012-04-11 21:18                 ` Drew Adams
2012-04-13  4:06           ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-13  7:32             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2012-04-13  7:43               ` Miles Bader
2012-04-22 15:12                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-11 17:00     ` Andy Wingo
2012-04-12  9:34     ` Emacs and Guile (was: GSoC projects related to Emacs) Ken Raeburn
2012-04-10  2:23 ` GSoC projects related to Emacs Stefan Monnier
2012-04-10  7:10   ` Bastien

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