From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The emacs_backtrace "feature" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:53:51 +0900 Message-ID: <87sjaao8e8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <83lig3yaci.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348296846 32407 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2012 06:54:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 22 08:54:09 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TFJbI-0001qr-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:54:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51680 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TFJbE-0006dV-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40302) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TFJbB-0006cg-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TFJbA-0005EY-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:53:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:33751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TFJb8-0005E9-G5; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B179708CA; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:53:51 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 288C21A32EF; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:53:51 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153451 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Where does Gnome redirect the error output from Emacs? I believe it's done at a lower level than GNOME. Here's what Gentoo's xsession does: ---------------------------------------------------------------- # redirect errors to a file in user's home directory if we can for errfile in "$HOME/.xsession-errors" "${TMPDIR-/tmp}/xses-$USER" "/tmp/xses-$USER" do if ( cp /dev/null "$errfile" 2> /dev/null ) then chmod 600 "$errfile" exec > "$errfile" 2>&1 break fi done ---------------------------------------------------------------- Indeed, various boring messages (SCIM startup, in particular) are captured there. My window manager is Fluxbox, whose session-starter has code to do the same, to ~/.fluxbox-errors. Debian's Xsession script does something similar. Of course this doesn't help much if you usually start apps from the command line. I typically start them using M-! or a shell buffer, so the output ends up in a buffer rather than the session manager's xsession-errors.