From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Bokma Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Fire defun by typing keyword Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 15:24:14 -0600 Organization: Castle Amber Message-ID: <87siv546bl.fsf@castleamber.com> References: <871u33mqj0.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87zjpjmuhj.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87k3gmbhjk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87d2mdma8f.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <1b9c3e40-fcbf-4759-a5c7-e4494ac5858e@googlegroups.com> <50960452-63dc-4283-8ab3-b505156200ae@googlegroups.com> <87habornym.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <62b2fa06-e106-44b9-9e3d-41b2ab01ef84@googlegroups.com> <87k3gipe99.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384033210 18051 80.91.229.3 (9 Nov 2013 21:40:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 21:40:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 09 22:40:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VfGGO-0007eN-Oy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:40:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58396 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VfGGO-0005Lh-Bf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:40:16 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 50 Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="15998b18c29720965aa433c5f0a9f732"; logging-data="16065"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18CUU1o7XOHxXJXdzprU67UH2ohHA9axCs=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-Url: http://johnbokma.com/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:d9oIVkkkbucGojIKg5DTbrnukLM= sha1:0krbac/ubSB8vsfuLbYSN37lTTc= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202145 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:40:01 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94418 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > "Look and feel" is just the final polish on the top > surface. You're severely mistaken. > If configuration is possible, as it always is > for any good application, it could be left entirely to > the user. A lot of users, including me, prefer that things mostly out-of-the box. I work as a programmer and really prefer to avoid having to tinker each and every piece of software (or hardware) I use. > "Look and feel" should *never* be the purpose or reason > for programming Same mistake as above. There is a huge difference between a well-researched user interface and one tinkered together by a programmer to scratch his own itch. I've read quite a bit about UI design and I still make mistakes because I think too often like a programmer (or: from a testing point of view). Luckily, my customers have no problem correcting me, and often I think: "Should've thought about that". A good user interface is one that doesn't need to be configured most of the time and doesn't get in the way. That requires research and testing. And of course such a user interface needs to be programmed. Maybe you mean "eye candy"? Still, an application that looks good gives me pleasure to work with. So in my case I prefer some eye candy. For example, "syntax highlighting" was, in my experience, frowned upon years back; eyecandy, pointless, etc. But I prefer it, and I think it makes me more productive. > - of many unpleasant words to describe > that, "absurd" is the most pleasant. Reinvention of the > (blue) wheel is reinvention of the (red) wheel. Our eyes are more sensitive to red, so a red wheel is more visible in the dark. Also, you don't want to drive in a car with the "reinvented" wheels of the 18th century, let alone with the original invention... -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/ Perl Consultancy: http://castleamber.com/ Perl for books: http://johnbokma.com/perl/help-in-exchange-for-books.html