From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk still not open Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:20:44 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87siqelner.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87fvmf1g64.fsf@gmail.com> <8761nbmgpv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k3bqp69z.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395210066 7936 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2014 06:21:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 06:21:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 19 07:21:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ9sH-0006E2-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:21:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38848 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ9sH-00017z-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ9s8-0000xe-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ9s2-0003ky-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:21:04 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ9s2-0003kr-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:20:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ9s0-0005eK-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:20:56 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f43c32.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.60.50]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:20:56 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f43c32.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:20:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f43c32.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w1KB736Ifhk7ZNqRL95INmIT7VM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170515 Archived-At: Jambunathan K writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> git shortlog --follow -s origin doc >> [...] >> 18 Jambunathan K >> [...] >> 5151 Juanma Barranquero > > You are underestimating my contribution. > > ox-html.el and ox-odt.el lists me as an author. > > The ODT section of Org manual runs to atleast 10 printed pages. Do you really want me to tabulate the corresponding line counts as well? > So I have the right to be part of emacs-devel and participate in this > thread. You are currently not as much "participating" as making an ass of yourself. When you write stuff like "Don't give excuses. Write that documentation." to Juanma, you are not impressing anybody. > You should appreciate me for having an opinion and stating it publicly > in a direct language. As an Emacs user, I have a vested interest in > making sure that various components come with good documentation and I > will use whatever is within my powers - stating an opinion - to > promote good behaviour. If you want to "promote good behavior", you could start by not acting like you are in a position to order people around. Even Richard only has the power to tell people what _not_ to do, but not what to do. > If you want more nuanced arguments - something that doesn't limit it's > critique to kicking in the groin - just ping me. I think you misunderstand what a public mailing list is for. Civility is not an option that has to be requested first. -- David Kastrup