From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters, strings, and buffers Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: <87siq2qg6a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <831txozsqa.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppl7y30l.fsf@gnu.org> <87r45nouvx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361myyac6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9capqfr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83eh1mfd09.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqfeqkl1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834n2ifa50.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396035039 20267 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2014 19:30:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 19:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 20:30:49 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WTcUK-00053v-NR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:30:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35650 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTcUK-0007AD-BW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:30:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTcUG-00075Y-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTcUF-0000xe-TJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTcUF-0000xa-IP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44914 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTcUE-0002R5-W4; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CDDEAE0F34; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:25:17 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <834n2ifa50.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 28 Mar 2014 21:31:07 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171095 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Kastrup >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:50:02 +0100 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" >> > >> >> Again, I disagree. Unibyte is a design mistake, and unnecessary. >> > >> > Then what do you call a buffer whose "text" is encoded? >> >> I can't speak for Stephen, of course, but my impression was he would >> call it "a bad idea". > > Then what other ideas to use when Lisp code needs to encode or decode > text manually? Redecode right to a "binary" coding system would be my guess. -- David Kastrup