From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Helm (and?) or Icicles (possibly using Evil) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:48:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87sip2y5xt.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> <0d24af8b-a235-4c4e-b946-408c74d849a0@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398390487 15084 80.91.229.3 (25 Apr 2014 01:48:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 01:48:07 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 25 03:48:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WdVF9-0003Wp-IF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 03:47:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53313 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WdVF9-00059f-0i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:47:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WdUcJ-00018d-Nt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WdNgy-0007pJ-Eo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp205.alice.it ([82.57.200.101]:12846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WdNgy-0007oC-2W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (95.233.75.226) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 529A59311FA0453E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:44:10 +0200 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WdNlK-00038G-3L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 19:48:42 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <0d24af8b-a235-4c4e-b946-408c74d849a0@googlegroups.com> (Hans BKK's message of "Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:51:23 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.101 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97362 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () Hans BKK () Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:51:23 -0700 (PDT) I'm not sure what may have given the impression I intended to do that 'shaking up the big sack thing' Well, here is one fragment that gives that impression: It's true I don't intend to DO, but definitely plan to select/create STUFF that won't interfere [...] the key word being "won't" =E2=89=A1 "will not". The gist is that you choo= se to partition your interaction w/ Emacs into two temporal phases. Setting up the latter phase while still in the former is the "shaking up" part. The "sack" part is because you represent yourself as outside, even now, and seem to enjoy selectively-binding (yuk yuk) the membrane. The "big" part is because Emacs is a multiverse ameoba, more oozing than snoozing. (NB: This is not a criticism, just mawkish pining for a.r.emacs -- feel free to ignore.) =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlNZTnIACgkQZwMiJEyAdQLV6ACeLq+aFCwcl0W860n+umOXVahN /+QAoIRepCMLjovBqciF5mW+h4RlyYdL =fhKA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--