From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: POP3 password in plaintext?
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:33:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sij8ical.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87ppecv3pj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
> Richard Stallman writes:
>
> > These points seem to conflict. First, there is no protection.
> > Second, there is protection: use TLS for this communication.
>
> Not at all. If the server provides TLS, there is protection, and both
> modern servers and Emacs (at least Gnus and probably RMail according
> to larsi, but I don't think VM does) are able to use STARTTLS to
> convert an unencrypted channel to an encrypted one, *before* the
> password is sent.
Transparent STARTTLS on demand would seem useless against
man-in-the-middle attacks. It's just good against eavesdropping on
unintercepted traffic. And you don't even need to be true
man-in-the-middle: you just need to be faster answering the STARTTLS
negotiation.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-01 5:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-29 20:49 POP3 password in plaintext? Richard Stallman
2014-09-30 1:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30 13:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 19:23 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 4:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 5:33 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-10-01 12:54 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 13:15 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-01 17:56 ` David Caldwell
2014-10-01 5:42 ` David Caldwell
2014-10-01 13:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-02 1:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-02 17:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-03 10:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-01 14:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-01 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-01 23:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 14:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-30 19:25 ` Richard Stallman
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