From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Bremner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18900: 24.4; please don't include view-lossage in bug reports by default Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:02:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87sii2hpsq.fsf@maritornes.cs.unb.ca> References: <87mw8ef0uf.fsf@maritornes.cs.unb.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414857805 19114 80.91.229.3 (1 Nov 2014 16:03:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 16:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18900@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 01 17:03:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb93-0003d1-Fp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:03:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb91-0001c9-FZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51743) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8u-0001c2-7y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8p-0003Qv-Ei for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8p-0003Qo-BW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8o-0005J6-HQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David Bremner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 16:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18900 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18900-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18900.141485777820384 (code B ref 18900); Sat, 01 Nov 2014 16:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18900) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2014 16:02:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8k-0005Ig-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: from yantan.tethera.net ([199.188.72.155]:44624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8g-0005IR-Ry for 18900@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:02:55 -0400 Original-Received: from remotemail by yantan.tethera.net with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xkb8d-0007TX-Hq; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 13:02:51 -0300 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 3332 invoked by uid 1000); Sat, 01 Nov 2014 16:02:45 -0000 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18.2+156~g3cc8ed5 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95349 Richard Stallman writes: > > Are you thinking of a reproducible bug? It isn't needed for them. It > is meant to be useful for irreproducible bugs, if the user runs > report-emacs-bug right away. > > To make it possible to ask for those data later, they have to be > saved. We could make report-emacs-bug save them in a file > in case they are asked for. I'd worry a bit about similar issues with writing sensitive information to disk in clear text. Although this is almost certainly less severe of a problem than sending the same information to a public mailing list, it still doesn't seem like a good default to me. What about a seperate function "report-bug-with-key-log" so that the user has to consciously make a choice to send this information? One can of course debate about the name, I would just prefer transparency to tradition here. Cheers, David