From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:53:13 +0000 Message-ID: <87sihncqxy.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8761eki9ym.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87sihogkt0.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415876034 9928 80.91.229.3 (13 Nov 2014 10:53:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Achim Gratz , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 13 11:53:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos26-0000n4-7f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:53:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos25-0004Mi-Rc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 05:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50405) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos1h-0004En-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 05:53:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos1c-0007QU-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 05:53:21 -0500 Original-Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:35725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos1c-0007QK-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 05:53:16 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos1a-0007IN-Au; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:53:14 +0000 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Xos1a-0004ik-2d; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:53:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87sihogkt0.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (Nic Ferrier's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:39:55 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176885 Archived-At: Nic Ferrier writes: > The centralization isn't really a problem right now you think. But I bet > it is. You're making people work inside a source tree that doesn't > belong to them and you're constraining the technical content they put > there. > > You're also inviting people to break the Makefile because they want > their own build. > > You're also inviting people to check in non-working code. > > You might say "these things have not happened yet". But that's because > there are very few ELPA authors so far. Maybe one of the reasons there > are so few ELPA authors is that it's weird. There is some truth in this. I feel rather more nervous commting into ELPA because it contains so many pieces of work from others. With my own repo's, that's fine. If I screw things up, then it's my problem.