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From: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: debbugs.gnu.org: is it user-centric or developer-centric?
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:27:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sihf2dpb.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9y4r7vx74.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:53:35 -0500")

>>>>> Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov wrote:

 >> Specifically, per my prior experience with the Debian BTS, the
 >> issues which the developers do not consider worth fixing, but which
 >> are otherwise valid, are tagged 'wontfix', but /not/ closed.

 > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00779.html

 > [...] if the bug isn't open to discussion, I close it.  I think
 > that's fairly common across Debian.  If it's tagged wontfix but still
 > open, that generally means one of two things: either it's still open
 > for discussion, but the maintainers are indicating their current
 > thinking on it, or it's a commonly-reported false positive (from the
 > maintainer's perspective) and they're leaving it open so that people
 > will see it in the bug list and see that someone else already
 > reported it.

 > Seems like a good summary to me.

	I do not seem to understand the “isn’t open to discussion” part.
	Is it something along the lines of “I have decided, and my
	decision is final”?

 > We have 1000s of bugs.  Closing ones that are never going to go
 > anywhere is essential.

	FWIW, #19109 already provides a trivial workaround for the
	issue, and I could just as well add one I personally use to
	#17959.  My primary concern is that following the closure, the
	bugs will become less visible, making it more difficult for the
	users having preferences similar to mine to find these
	workarounds.

	My intent is to devise a proper fix for #17959 eventually.
	As for #19109, we seem to have a fundamental disagreement on
	whether Emacs should or should not be allowed to pop a buffer at
	some random time, possibly interfering with whatever the user
	does at the moment.

-- 
FSF associate member #7257  np. Mourning Star — Kamelot … 3013 B6A0 230E 334A



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-19 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-06 19:15 bug#17959: eww: FTP is not supported; but with ftp_proxy, it is Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-10 21:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19  8:04   ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 17:24     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 18:37       ` debbugs.gnu.org: is it user-centric or developer-centric? Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 18:53         ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-19 19:27           ` Ivan Shmakov [this message]
2014-12-16 20:09     ` bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Ivan Shmakov
2015-01-12 21:40       ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-09 16:55         ` bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Ivan Shmakov
2015-12-25 19:00           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-25 23:47             ` Drew Adams
2015-12-25 23:47             ` Drew Adams
2015-12-25 19:00           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-28 22:07             ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-12-28 22:07             ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-12-28 22:30               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-28 22:30               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30  1:03           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30  5:47             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30  7:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30  7:30                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30  8:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:40                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30 15:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 13:19                       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 13:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 13:44                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 14:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 15:13                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 15:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 13:56                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-01 14:06                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 14:24                             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 15:13                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-01 16:07                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2015-02-09 17:04         ` bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Ivan Shmakov

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