From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:57:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87sigu2o8t.fsf@gmx.us> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417787884 31925 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 13:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:58:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 14:57:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtOK-0004pq-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:57:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50527 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtOK-0003hO-Ha for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:57:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41274) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtOB-0003hF-RI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:57:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtO5-0002hB-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:57:43 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtO5-0002gt-6I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:57:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtO3-0004fm-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:57:35 +0100 Original-Received: from 109.201.154.191 ([109.201.154.191]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:57:35 +0100 Original-Received: from rasmus by 109.201.154.191 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:57:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.201.154.191 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAAAnRSTlMA/iyWEiMAAAACYktH RAD/h4/MvwAAAAlwSFlzAAAASAAAAEgARslrPgAAAjNJREFUSMe1lsGNIzsMRH15+VQmlUqFwlAY CiMS9qDucdtuD7D78QX4YFtPJFVUSY/1l+Pxj0AbqOO36ZrfgTFytfa0EaD+DRBxTR0h4ukS+Q6Y UC2AJBZOJl+Ix1qNyYCrAhIg8xPwE4jE2DGqTqoNgjFfAEtUzDnUJRvPbYjHWhJvo6YMI+Y+JfxO yMAKN8Qu+oMA3ESfWT1WgGp4wzSCCL2p/iglZUC1Qm2ZUcY7N4Gvqj/iOoue3h88U89y9KL6Y1As CfWysvbMdHVftsCXGhqc1K5hWmABR057XPrksdYqwVWLqaqjt54x5uU8DBf1NJ97HPn1APkCdN2o EvoVeOaU5k5G6UuErcRHryiH6D9AfpuPZO2kThM4GlD388EEzcVmjhruCwCsgzgB0wYtU/c5mU2c QBOrssTMXbOrD8F/nK+gJiPKee7+GDA7NoR5WmVR+8io8FRSPV05FnfPDnHx1khENIWrusqCPlpF 8QjbVzOeUKI4z6xiyngCFJlq68W9d0oUCjWz1shF3EABNdQbUFAE5TAxKTQpKGzkdQOoUI7+l61i r1Nr5u1CqQ3kBxis/ZU6+vsFCIXq8ndTeAN9Aww2qp1D7xKMQ3Qfodj7d2S8VhNwKNAdIBuUnVLO U6Ic63wCREBZUMpayy5wrC+APFHXoetaq+iZ5XwDGveUirOGZSTIVLoPZd6E2xabPjexk3jffrl9 CUy3SD19a53OWN+fDgHydvXMf35r/I/AH5DaBVjP2kHeAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PVRKt/ajnTk05UroeZNWhby/JlE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178919 Archived-At: Hi, "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > [...] we have agreed on asciidoc as a new master format. This seems nothing short of bizarre. Did you, by chance, hear of this new mode called Org? 1. My Emacs does not feature an "asciidoc-mode", and it seems I would need an extra binary to export out of asciidoc to "richly linked hypertext". ox.el, the Org export framework, is written in Emacs-Lisp. 2. Judging from a sample on the Asciidoc-website, formatting asciidoc-txt seems painful. E.g. a headline of length N seems to require 2×N characters and two lines whereas an Org headline requires N + HEADLINE-LEVEL + 1 characters and a single line. Delimiters in asciidoc seems overloaded, e.g. ==⋯= is both the beginning of a table and an example block. 3. Org already supports export of texinfo, txt, html, LaTeX, odt, & man out of the box. Asciidoc seems to support html... —Rasmus -- This space is left intentionally blank