From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oleh Krehel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is there a way to inhibit message3 from Elisp? Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:20:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87sibsyt96.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87618psiu4.fsf@gmail.com> <87a8y1l3ho.fsf@gmail.com> <83618o4eom.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhhke5s1.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429723594 6521 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2015 17:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 19:26:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyPw-0008Lv-Ea for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:26:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36344 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyPv-0001Mh-QD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47231) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyPs-0001Lf-F3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyPm-0005VG-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:26:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]:34115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyPm-0005UK-B4; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:26:22 -0400 Original-Received: by wgso17 with SMTP id o17so254631347wgs.1; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=2quZUxK5msZA8tJTCHO9hWLNyYgDyMNWjkdgmpKEr30=; b=oMqk8MWEATDTksjIAVWVmv4Tn56FX3Az1tWXCq8j9h9vDR2zFHEutmcKi4RXkHJayC jWsreon2MHbLKcc0q1oQTYCp1KaQhqLx4axp1rotA/oRdua0bSGAO2BLVHdX/FgPGEQU 6ASEawjeHSksUOtzHymQd48sXeQEENdFj7tKL2KB6CkpVfiIjraWbd3BuBugYD2Vy2On 7rk3hH4wVSC0UP4pCXsKq0C+nbC8X5oiaspVTpmwJBN4HIeRnJqL91tOah7/IY7kjj7G IXWDGDuZS+CRh75+LYYkT8Mtfkz5yx+SMGzyLBrJE5AQ9aHp7Wjc4Zq2YViQi79h8KBr 4O0Q== X-Received: by 10.180.216.40 with SMTP id on8mr2061766wic.55.1429723579068; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from firefly ([131.155.69.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gy8sm8647785wib.13.2015.04.22.10.26.18 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:22:11 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185786 Archived-At: Artur Malabarba writes: >> Updated etc/NEWS and the manual (entry for `message'). >> Let me know if it's OK to merge. > > Now that I think about it, the really ideal way to do this would be to > have a with-no-messages macro/special form, so that stupid packages > can't setq this variable permanently. > > But if that's too impractical, the current version is fine. I'm not sure if it's possible or practical. message3 is in C, so there would need to be an Elisp variable that connects the macro and the C code. In any case, there's already a good way to deal with stupid packages. Oleh