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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Package initialization
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:51:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87si8ks9ni.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zj2szax6.fsf@gmail.com> (Helmut Eller's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:41:57 +0200")

Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Jul 19 2015, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 19 2015, David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
>>>>;;;autoload (global-set-key (kbd "C-x c 5") 'foo-prefix-map)
>>>> Is there any problem with that?
>>>
>>> Yes, some poeple like to set up keybdinings explicitly in .emacs and
>>> don't want that merely installing a package changes global keybindings;
>>> other people don't want to change their .emacs.
>>
>> Is there a particular point to you making me look up the information in
>> the manual for you when all you wanted to state is that you want to have
>> logically incompatible requirements supported?
>> Are you getting paid for wasting people's time?
>
> If you don't understand the question then don't answer.

To quote:

    Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com> writes:
    >
    >>> On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Artur Malabarba wrote:
    >>
    >>>> lisp-mode-hook.  In general, lazy initialization would also not
    >>>> work well if those autoloaded commands should be bound to keys
    >>>> because before the first invocation the keys would not be
    >>>> bound.
    >>>
    >>> If the user wants to bind an autoloaded command to a key, they
    >>> can do that just fine.
    >>
    >> How without adding something to .emacs?
    >>
    > You can autoload on a prefix keymap as well I think.  So if some
    > bindings are to be present globally, you can do that without
    > preloading the package itself.

    Show me the code and where to put it.

So I would strongly suggest to people they think twice before assuming
anybody but yourself understands your "questions" when bothering to
answer.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-19 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-18 15:56 Package initialization Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 17:16 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-18 19:00   ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 19:20     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-18 22:56       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 23:07         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-18 23:29           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-18 23:48             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19  0:13             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-19  7:23               ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19  8:10                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19  9:58                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:07                     ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:11                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:27                         ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:33                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:38                             ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 10:41                               ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:51                                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-07-19 10:11                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 10:14                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 10:35                         ` bruce.connor.am
2015-07-19 10:48                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-19 11:35                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 10:54                           ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 11:34                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 12:09                               ` David Kastrup
2015-07-19 12:33                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-19 16:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-19 15:52                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-19 16:37                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20  1:30                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-20 17:01                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20 17:25                         ` Chad Brown
2015-07-20 18:12                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20 19:09                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-07-20 20:54                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-21  5:59                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-21  6:40                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-25  4:42                             ` Alexis
2015-07-19 16:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-20  0:11             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-07-20 16:33               ` Helmut Eller
2015-07-20 22:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-07-21  5:53                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-07-21  6:45                     ` David Kastrup
2015-07-21  6:05                   ` Helmut Eller

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