From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About the CA form Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:06:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87si51ptl2.fsf@gmx.net> References: <87mvv9zw2c.fsf@ijmp.net> <562A302D.7050106@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445609616 29360 80.91.229.3 (23 Oct 2015 14:13:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 16:13:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zpd5y-0004BC-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:13:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zpd5y-0008QD-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zpczj-0007Hs-Df for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zpcze-0003qh-Dr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:06:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:54922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zpcze-0003p1-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:06:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.125.142]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsgvV-1aVrbX0hgH-012L9O; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:06:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <562A302D.7050106@online.de> ("Andreas \=\?utf-8\?Q\?R\=C3\=B6hler\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:03:41 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:+z2JL5RC+m+kYTat5CJ7XIh2rDiMwYtpGBejdpZRuYgiChLRH9N Ooz7cd3Jq+WKjMx79KHdb+SHi4fXDJo1RKIVhEUh1HtZHFeaj4TlAI/S5JGFWIQFA9gVOUJ mEG+cUKOP7xTnqNy9TnSKE+WOohS9RiUTK5mGyPgkm9cW5jrRnTIVqyv6oai9LV5hu3eu5N iDxiJWGZ2464zu4aidwVg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:s9XkOnuutKc=:uGXMimX175lJuJziecmmcM w4qE7BAgLKcmbieoGkyVFOOKe2ABS8iYSxBGQXJnEWTUczxTjeTCefFINt7YFteHWn+/1TT/l 8+ouN8qcUx3CXC6kC5lJoewSFasUXD7wbUACOcoqOUViCL6dDPpoX+cB9FF3cL7DDVpUpcKSI Zj1WKvH9pZbJLKJzH1p3zQDE5WMoaCAs9gCydAOcJPHKf7zIgzYFoQrdr5SlaBkGdGnUVfXKU sX1WU8DJs5QyGxvCxBbITjv2jN+M+wbmvvfl27guiKsmAZm6Tuv6uai3JAv1PjQ+JoPxppZnJ VArPnWu3tT7vNeog8TaUCYPw+tdXs0OoBnDtFJ59j85JshsCwkPmDRT6X3ZFPSMFMv552Otqo bOuFJFQwrVlOPgItS4K/N7wkgEEGw+Y/3Qk6R+59JOceckvZWTY4CXHdCsNzSU7CyChqeZ9Nx er8Dy0UqREGGaD8Vac+qbD4ciNd7slD+9J5AXVGqv5IbhYicekTWAONRiAr2kDZ8M7n2/q8K+ j9xUHLmYCFn3mACDh8AOPituX/2ULUlpMPkF8XTvJ3aOscj/UEnAip7cbTJ+chabK0XfHSKup JlVKKZ4VrXS5av4j/pqcFp/V45WlnUvNLr9ryCRbbW2UUxCXgFs2TomiQk3ZQECNyv0yz61DZ ipzjkSkH8ykdDQ7UAzwRUysoa0r0+3+3IASIGOaSAI37kimGf1wWhnHtdHjUoJXM2eFXdKY19 m1wabi05VL00v5BxGAOlN/k6CgmIOP7/2ecMhy3I4351ISEE+OkQqGWgBWFJPQwOUrBu9cA6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192490 Archived-At: On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:03:41 +0200 Andreas R=C3=B6hler wrote: > On 23.10.2015 13:03, Jeff Clough wrote: >> Artur Malabarba writes: >> >>> Is there a PDF template of the FSF's Copyright Assignment form >>> available online? Maybe this is documented somewhere, but I couldn't >>> find anything with a few brief searches. >> I don't know about online, but sending an email to >> "copyright-clerk@fsf.org" will get you what you need. >> >>> I ask because I think some people might be more confortable assigning >>> copyright if they could know beforehand exactly what the form states >>> (at least I know it was a small concern for me). >> For me, there was no part of the assignment process where I was not >> given as much time as I needed to read over and understand what I was >> submitting, signing over, or otherwise giving to the FSF. >> >> Again, I'd recommend contacting copyright-clerk@fsf.org so you can see >> for yourself and get your answers directly. If there is some reason the >> forms/templates aren't available online, the clerk will likely know why. >> >> Jeff >> > > Did you sign to indemnify the FSF even in case, a claim of copyright > infringement brought forward was unfounded? That's not what the (or at least my) Copyright Assignment says, but rather (paragraph 7c): "Developer is not obliged to defend FSF against any spurious claim of adverse ownership, but will cooperate with FSF in defending against any such claim and will indemnify FSF for all losses if the claim is not ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ spurious, i.e. if the adverse claimant is a true owner and FSF is ^^^^^^^^ thereby damaged, including but not limited to the amount of all adverse damage judgments and costs of litigation." > At least that was the kind of stipulation I remember... Not surprised the= text > isn't found without effort. Steve Berman