* Re: How to IRC? [not found] <mailman.1218.1449153433.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2015-12-03 15:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon 2015-12-04 0:55 ` Emanuel Berg 2015-12-04 22:03 ` B. T. Raven 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2015-12-03 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes: > Hi all, > > I'm an (almost) complete newbie wrt IRC. How do I start? The EmacsWiki > page is basically a bunch of people stating that ERC is great. That is > cool, but I'd like to learn how to use that (I found some general IRC > links there, so that part can be considered solved) and choose an > (Emacs-based, of course) IRC client. What are the differences bewteen > (many) existing clients? Any hints which might help me decide? I use erc. So once you've installed it, M-x erc-select RET irc.freenode.org RET marcin RET RET wait for the connection, then in the irc.freenode.org buffer, /join #emacs RET and start to chat. You can customize erc to store the default irc server, nickname, password, and a list of channels you'd want to join automatically. M-x customize-group RET erc RET -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 15:59 ` How to IRC? Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2015-12-04 0:55 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-04 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> writes: > So once you've installed it You don't need to install it, but I suspect this wasn't always the case. > M-x erc-select RET irc.freenode.org RET marcin RET > RET wait for the connection, then in the > irc.freenode.org buffer, /join #emacs RET and start > to chat. > > You can customize erc to store the default irc > server, nickname, password, and a list of channels > you'd want to join automatically. > > M-x customize-group RET erc RET Or you can do it straight with Elisp: (setq erc-server "irc.freenode.net") (setq erc-port 6667) (setq erc-nick user-login-name) (setq erc-user-full-name user-login-name) (erc) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? [not found] <mailman.1218.1449153433.31583.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2015-12-03 15:59 ` How to IRC? Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2015-12-04 22:03 ` B. T. Raven 2015-12-05 1:57 ` Emanuel Berg 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: B. T. Raven @ 2015-12-04 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs On 12/3/2015 8:36 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm an (almost) complete newbie wrt IRC. How do I start? The EmacsWiki > page is basically a bunch of people stating that ERC is great. That is > cool, but I'd like to learn how to use that (I found some general IRC > links there, so that part can be considered solved) and choose an > (Emacs-based, of course) IRC client. What are the differences bewteen > (many) existing clients? Any hints which might help me decide? > > TIA, > I found these related lines in my .emacs: (defalias 'irc 'erc) ;; so M-x irc loads the erc chat module through Customize set these; substitute your own servers, channels, etc. '(erc-autojoin-channels-alist (quote (("dal.net") ("freenode.net" "#emacs")))) '(erc-manual-set-nick-on-bad-nick-p t) '(erc-modules (quote (autojoin button completion fill irccontrols match menu netsplit noncommands readonly ring stamp))) '(erc-nick "yournick") '(erc-pcomplete-mode t) '(erc-port 6667) '(erc-server "irc.dal.net") ;; or your own '(erc-stamp-mode t) '(erc-truncate-mode t) the Emacs rcirc module might be easier to use but it's less capable than erc Anyway, wait for more authoritative suggestions. Often I have to fall back on Chatzilla or another client when dal.net won't connect. I don't know if the problem is in one of my Emacs settings or what. hth, Ed ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-04 22:03 ` B. T. Raven @ 2015-12-05 1:57 ` Emanuel Berg 2015-12-16 15:34 ` Nicolas Richard [not found] ` <mailman.17.1450280146.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-05 1:57 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs "B. T. Raven" <btraven@nihilo.net> writes: > Anyway, wait for more authoritative suggestions. > Often I have to fall back on Chatzilla or another > client when dal.net won't connect. I don't know if > the problem is in one of my Emacs settings or what. Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes: > irc in emacs gets disconnected every time when > connecting to freenode.net which is where erc goes > to connect. Why this is, I don't know. Okaaay... In theory as well as practice, unless practice is at an embarrassingly low level (and a wierd one at that), the IRC client shouldn't one bit influence the status of IRC as a network, and the client should be able to connect to any server that any other client is able to connect to. If not, the IRC protocol isn't implemented correctly - and this is something we normally take for granted when discussing clients. E.g., when we say Gnus is better than Thunderbird, we mean we prefer the Gnus *interface*, we appreciate Gnus being part of Emacs, the configurability and Elisping, and so on - we don't mean that Thunderbird is incapable of delivering and fetching the actual mails. With ERC, these variables (setq erc-server "irc.freenode.net") (setq erc-port 6667) are prefixed `erc-' but that refers to them being part of the ERC software; ERC is still the client and the server is the server of the IRC network - so by changing that variable value, ERC should be able to connect to virtually all servers (except some for non-technology reasons). -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-05 1:57 ` Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-16 15:34 ` Nicolas Richard 2015-12-17 1:04 ` Emanuel Berg [not found] ` <mailman.17.1450280146.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Richard @ 2015-12-16 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes: > "B. T. Raven" <btraven@nihilo.net> writes: > >> Anyway, wait for more authoritative suggestions. >> Often I have to fall back on Chatzilla or another >> client when dal.net won't connect. I don't know if >> the problem is in one of my Emacs settings or what. > > Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes: > >> irc in emacs gets disconnected every time when >> connecting to freenode.net which is where erc goes >> to connect. Why this is, I don't know. > > Okaaay... > > In theory as well as practice, unless practice is at > an embarrassingly low level (and a wierd one at that), > the IRC client shouldn't one bit influence the status > of IRC as a network, and the client should be able to > connect to any server that any other client is able to > connect to. An IRC client can have bugs (e.g. fail to respond to PING requests from the IRC server for some reason), leading to it being disconnected more often. That being said, I never noticed any such disconnection problem with rcirc, which I use. Some people on #emacs use ERC with a very impressive uptime too, so I doubt rcirc or ERC have this sort of bugs. OTOH, since emacs has only one lisp thread, when emacs is doing something, it will most likely stop responding to ping requests and, if it emacs is busy long enough, this can lead to disconnection. A common suggestion (even though I don't follow it) is to use a separate emacs session only for IRC. -- Nicolas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-16 15:34 ` Nicolas Richard @ 2015-12-17 1:04 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-17 1:04 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Nicolas Richard <nrichard@ulb.ac.be> writes: > An IRC client can have bugs No :) > That being said, I never noticed any such > disconnection problem with rcirc, which I use. > Some people on #emacs use ERC with a very impressive > uptime too, so I doubt rcirc or ERC have this sort > of bugs. I doubt that as well. Anyway, look (!) - uptime again! It is such a useful thing :) > OTOH, since emacs has only one lisp thread, when > emacs is doing something, it will most likely stop > responding to ping requests and, if it emacs is busy > long enough, this can lead to disconnection. > A common suggestion (even though I don't follow it) > is to use a separate emacs session only for IRC. That might be a good solution with respect to uptime but not with respect to using Emacs and ERC/IRC to do useful things. Say that you work on some source and you want to yank it into the ERC buffer. Or the other way around. I'd say in general it is preferrable to do it the other way around - keep everything including ERC/IRC in the regular Emacs session, and then, for the rare occasions when you use Emacs for batch/DP stuff that might block IRC, put *that* in its own session. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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* Re: How to IRC? [not found] ` <mailman.17.1450280146.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2015-12-17 2:20 ` B. T. Raven 2015-12-17 2:57 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: B. T. Raven @ 2015-12-17 2:20 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs On 12/16/2015 9:34 AM, Nicolas Richard wrote: > Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes: > >> "B. T. Raven" <btraven@nihilo.net> writes: >> >>> Anyway, wait for more authoritative suggestions. >>> Often I have to fall back on Chatzilla or another >>> client when dal.net won't connect. I don't know if >>> the problem is in one of my Emacs settings or what. >> >> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes: >> >>> irc in emacs gets disconnected every time when >>> connecting to freenode.net which is where erc goes >>> to connect. Why this is, I don't know. >> >> Okaaay... >> >> In theory as well as practice, unless practice is at >> an embarrassingly low level (and a wierd one at that), >> the IRC client shouldn't one bit influence the status >> of IRC as a network, and the client should be able to >> connect to any server that any other client is able to >> connect to. > > An IRC client can have bugs (e.g. fail to respond to PING requests from > the IRC server for some reason), leading to it being disconnected more > often. > > That being said, I never noticed any such disconnection problem with > rcirc, which I use. Some people on #emacs use ERC with a very impressive > uptime too, so I doubt rcirc or ERC have this sort of bugs. > > OTOH, since emacs has only one lisp thread, when emacs is doing > something, it will most likely stop responding to ping requests and, if > it emacs is busy long enough, this can lead to disconnection. A common > suggestion (even though I don't follow it) is to use a separate emacs > session only for IRC. > Thanks Nicolas. Whenever I have the problem, Emacs shouldn't be busy with any thing other than holding the contents of 5-10 text buffers in memory. The problem is not disconnection but failing to connect (about 20% of the time. If erc connects to dal.net, it will likely stay connected. Also, I have always been able to connect with Chatzilla when Emacs (erc) is not working. If I figure out the problem I'll post an explanation but I may not devote much time to it since irc represents much less than 1% of my computer usage in any given week. Thanks again, Ed ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-17 2:20 ` B. T. Raven @ 2015-12-17 2:57 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-17 2:57 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs "B. T. Raven" <btraven@nihilo.net> writes: > Thanks Nicolas. Whenever I have the problem, Emacs > shouldn't be busy with any thing other than holding > the contents of 5-10 text buffers in memory. That shouldn't influence even if you have 100 buffers, as long as they don't do any active computation. > The problem is not disconnection but failing to > connect (about 20% of the time. If erc connects to > dal.net, it will likely stay connected. Why do you want dal.net anyway? Better: irc.freenode.net (But I just connected with ERC to arcor.de.eu.dal.net with no problems.) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* How to IRC? @ 2015-12-03 14:36 Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-03 15:58 ` Aurélien Aptel ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-03 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Hi all, I'm an (almost) complete newbie wrt IRC. How do I start? The EmacsWiki page is basically a bunch of people stating that ERC is great. That is cool, but I'd like to learn how to use that (I found some general IRC links there, so that part can be considered solved) and choose an (Emacs-based, of course) IRC client. What are the differences bewteen (many) existing clients? Any hints which might help me decide? TIA, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 14:36 Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-03 15:58 ` Aurélien Aptel 2015-12-03 16:18 ` Teemu Likonen 2015-12-04 0:45 ` Emanuel Berg 2015-12-10 4:23 ` Shakthi Kannan 2 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Aurélien Aptel @ 2015-12-03 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list If you want to use an Emacs client I would suggest the default one, rcirc (bundled with emacs). Here's a quick tutorial. Let's say you want to join the #emacs channel on the Freenode network. C-u M-x irc RET Emacs should prompt you for: - a server. Default is freenode on my config (full domain just in case: irc.freenode.net) - a port. Freenode servers listen on several ports [1]. 6667 will do. - a nick. This is the name others will see when you talk. Limit yourself to ascii with no space. - a username. Leave default. - a password. Leave empty. - irc channel: #emacs. Channels are usually prefixed with #. - encryption. Leave default. rcirc opens a server buffer (*irc.freenode.net*) which is used to send server commands (you probably don't need it at this point) and a buffer per channel (#emacs@irc.freenode.net) where you can actually discuss. Switch to the #emacs@irc.freenode.net buffer and start talking! If you close the channel buffer, other will see you left the channel but you are still connected to the server. You need to kill the server buffer to be completely disconnected. 1: https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 15:58 ` Aurélien Aptel @ 2015-12-03 16:18 ` Teemu Likonen 2015-12-03 18:13 ` Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-04 0:50 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Teemu Likonen @ 2015-12-03 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: Aurélien Aptel; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 348 bytes --] Aurélien Aptel [2015-12-03 16:58:20+01] wrote: > If you want to use an Emacs client I would suggest the default one, > rcirc (bundled with emacs). Erc is bundled with Emacs too. When someone is totally new to _IRC_ I'd suggest some graphical client, not Emacs. When concepts and commands are more familiar I'd try an Emacs IRC client. [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 818 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 16:18 ` Teemu Likonen @ 2015-12-03 18:13 ` Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-03 18:22 ` Teemu Likonen 2015-12-04 11:46 ` Jude DaShiell 2015-12-04 0:50 ` Emanuel Berg 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-03 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw To: Teemu Likonen; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list On 2015-12-03, at 17:18, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote: > Aurélien Aptel [2015-12-03 16:58:20+01] wrote: > >> If you want to use an Emacs client I would suggest the default one, >> rcirc (bundled with emacs). > > Erc is bundled with Emacs too. > > When someone is totally new to _IRC_ I'd suggest some graphical client, > not Emacs. When concepts and commands are more familiar I'd try an Emacs > IRC client. Why? -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 18:13 ` Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-03 18:22 ` Teemu Likonen 2015-12-03 20:15 ` Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-04 11:46 ` Jude DaShiell 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Teemu Likonen @ 2015-12-03 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 531 bytes --] Marcin Borkowski [2015-12-03 19:13:54+01] wrote: > On 2015-12-03, at 17:18, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote: >> When someone is totally new to _IRC_ I'd suggest some graphical >> client, not Emacs. When concepts and commands are more familiar I'd >> try an Emacs IRC client. > > Why? I think Emacs's irc clients (ok, Erc at least) are difficult for beginners. Only a suggestion. -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. <https://github.com/tlikonen> // // PGP: 4E10 55DC 84E9 DFF6 13D7 8557 719D 69D3 2453 9450 /// [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 818 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 18:22 ` Teemu Likonen @ 2015-12-03 20:15 ` Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-03 22:05 ` Teemu Likonen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-03 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw To: Teemu Likonen; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list On 2015-12-03, at 19:22, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote: > Marcin Borkowski [2015-12-03 19:13:54+01] wrote: > >> On 2015-12-03, at 17:18, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote: >>> When someone is totally new to _IRC_ I'd suggest some graphical >>> client, not Emacs. When concepts and commands are more familiar I'd >>> try an Emacs IRC client. >> >> Why? > > I think Emacs's irc clients (ok, Erc at least) are difficult for > beginners. Only a suggestion. Thanks for your advice. Challenge accepted. I'm going with Erc. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 20:15 ` Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-03 22:05 ` Teemu Likonen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Teemu Likonen @ 2015-12-03 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 506 bytes --] Marcin Borkowski [2015-12-03 21:15:10+01] wrote: > On 2015-12-03, at 19:22, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote: >> I think Emacs's irc clients (ok, Erc at least) are difficult for >> beginners. Only a suggestion. > > Thanks for your advice. > > Challenge accepted. > > I'm going with Erc. Excellent attitude! Erc is one of the best irc clients available. -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. <https://github.com/tlikonen> // // PGP: 4E10 55DC 84E9 DFF6 13D7 8557 719D 69D3 2453 9450 /// [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 818 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 18:13 ` Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-03 18:22 ` Teemu Likonen @ 2015-12-04 11:46 ` Jude DaShiell 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ 2015-12-04 11:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: Marcin Borkowski, Teemu Likonen; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list People exist who aren't even graphically-oriented. Not many of us mind you, but we do exist nonetheless. I have only the command line version of talkingarch linux installed for that reason and memory limitations which may only permit a graphical user environment using orca to run with extreme latency if it runs at all; this machine only has a gig of memory. Aside from that, I found erc works and takes my credentials from .bashrc to do so and it does not get automatically disconnected by remote server. irc in emacs gets disconnected every time when connecting to freenode.net which is where erc goes to connect. Why this is, I don't know. On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 13:13:54 > From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> > To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> > Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: How to IRC? > > > On 2015-12-03, at 17:18, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote: > >> Aur?lien Aptel [2015-12-03 16:58:20+01] wrote: >> >>> If you want to use an Emacs client I would suggest the default one, >>> rcirc (bundled with emacs). >> >> Erc is bundled with Emacs too. >> >> When someone is totally new to _IRC_ I'd suggest some graphical client, >> not Emacs. When concepts and commands are more familiar I'd try an Emacs >> IRC client. > > Why? > > -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 16:18 ` Teemu Likonen 2015-12-03 18:13 ` Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-12-04 0:50 ` Emanuel Berg 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-04 0:50 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> writes: > When someone is totally new to _IRC_ I'd suggest > some graphical client, not Emacs. When concepts and > commands are more familiar I'd try an Emacs > IRC client. Ha ha ha! Especially the OP who is totally new to Emacs and non-GUIs should really heed this advice ;) No, people come to Emacs and the shell/CLI world not because it is "the next level" after "mastering" the GUIs ("mastering a GUI" - a contradiction in terms btw). No, it is a matter of personality. It *is* more powerful but it isn't more difficult. A kid can do it. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 14:36 Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-03 15:58 ` Aurélien Aptel @ 2015-12-04 0:45 ` Emanuel Berg 2015-12-10 4:23 ` Shakthi Kannan 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-04 0:45 UTC (permalink / raw To: help-gnu-emacs Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes: > I'm an (almost) complete newbie wrt IRC. How do > I start? The EmacsWiki page is basically a bunch of > people stating that ERC is great. There are several Emacs IRC clients. ERC is the one I use and tho I have encountered one bug in particular (which was ignored on both gmane.emacs.devel and gmane.emacs.erc.general when I brought it up) - anyway save for that anomaly I am happy with ERC. Here is my setup: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/conf/emacs-init/erc-my.el Also, there are a lot of `erc-' faces! So you will have to spend some well-spent time getting it to work to your liking. As for IRC itself, for people like us, it isn't that great. Gmane/Usenet is much, much better. But IRC is good for questions that you know there is a fast-and-standard answer to. Anything that requires discussion and follow-ups, use the listbots/newsgroups as always. Historically IRC is a playground for havoc kids to experiment with security and be immature nox-ing each other, do takeovers - basically boys will be boys, tho some of these boys are bit more... whatever. For grownups to spend time "idling" on IRC - I don't see the sense in that. And I'm more than willing to have a flame war over that RIGHT NOW! ... No, just kidding :) Emacs of course, makes both IRC and Gmane better. If you don't get an answer on IRC, kill you question, bring up a message buffer, and send it to Gmane! Case closed. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: How to IRC? 2015-12-03 14:36 Marcin Borkowski 2015-12-03 15:58 ` Aurélien Aptel 2015-12-04 0:45 ` Emanuel Berg @ 2015-12-10 4:23 ` Shakthi Kannan 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Shakthi Kannan @ 2015-12-10 4:23 UTC (permalink / raw To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Hi Marcin, --- On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote: | I'm an (almost) complete newbie wrt IRC. How do I start? The EmacsWiki | page is basically a bunch of people stating that ERC is great. That is | cool, but I'd like to learn how to use that (I found some general IRC | links there, so that part can be considered solved) and choose an | (Emacs-based, of course) IRC client. What are the differences bewteen | (many) existing clients? Any hints which might help me decide? \-- I started with ERC, but, it kept getting disconnected, and reconnecting. I switched to using rcirc. My configuration is at: https://github.com/shakthimaan/cask-dot-emacs/blob/master/etc/init-rcirc.el SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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