From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:34:57 +0100 Message-ID: <87shi68y6m.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <7s37aapc4g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fue7c32j.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83r2xrl8kp.fsf@gnu.org> <83d19bkz60.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499546123 21566 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2017 20:35:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:35:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, rgm@gnu.org, ken.manheimer@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 08 22:35:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwRZ-0004w4-JP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:35:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33999 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwRf-0005KJ-1d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwRY-0005IY-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwRY-00057r-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:40982) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwRR-000523-EB; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:35:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=T2rY35JFwIpjG833QpRqaEbx5TW3rukxMLhgTzVL/VU=; b=idGda13ZwilzVkvhhOqXm4wgN AS6T6yIGv1etAdEs/R3cQ629hgkKlh1DWw9XohU5vzIsBHsX9gmFqxTySTDrj39JxwOGAX9KkNl7z FbVA/3HCS/rqzlMJwuEo0FlskfiqY9DCfVUvR3OXQZfrw7XdT7ijnDswbN8PcozlHHe2Honr7qvVY ratUk0kBf7HOTgo0tFaDsMD9JYWwqQUJ/A9F9DcemHKtH1bnvTqV9jyTV96mqxk87BV9djho2Urrq u8it9lSQA/EuLVcupxCPfeml25VsztEVSP1I6s1cqYM2pC9Fr54HMYGlhIGvgb6VlvsYIPQWt8kBe ZrHvLnj/Q==; Original-Received: from cpc8-benw10-2-0-cust100.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([92.233.204.101]:55296 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwRP-004JTa-31; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:34:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83d19bkz60.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Jul 2017 13:20:39 +0300") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216338 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> No this is no good. If I am going to do this, I want notifications -- push >> not pull. So, there needs to be a way to open this up beyond maintainers. > > Maybe there's a misunderstanding: I'm offering to do this in your > stead. IOW, "if I'm going to do this" is no longer applicable: if you > ask me, I will do it for you -- you will no longer need to bother > about the process, you will just get a notification when it's done > (and you can query me about the current status, if you wish). > > It's entirely up to you whether to take the offer, of course. Eli, this is a kind offer, but it misses the point, really. Having you do the work doesn't make the work less, especially if, as Stefan says, there is a ticket system there already. And, having you as a single point of failure is not that scalable. Even if I get magit done, there are many other packages out there, and I am not going to do them all. Phil