From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 26.1-rc1: global-set-key suggestions Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 11:12:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87sh6upply.fsf@chopper> References: <54ef5b61-535d-4f19-6e32-2580146c8204@gmail.com> <504ae9af-67a6-4495-19df-155fec42916f@disroot.org> <20180513133523.GA26772@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <26F4391E-B8E4-4F6D-9602-CB50C01C162D@scratch.space> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1526289574 2741 195.159.176.226 (14 May 2018 09:19:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 09:19:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs developers To: Van L Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 14 11:19:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fI9dg-0000XZ-Uq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:19:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fI9fm-0005uO-FE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2018 05:21:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fI9ed-0005pu-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2018 05:20:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fI9eX-0001qW-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2018 05:20:27 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([194.9.95.112]:19355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fI9eX-0001oi-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2018 05:20:21 -0400 Original-Received: from s554.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s554.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E554F1F1958F for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from s499.loopia.se (unknown [172.21.200.97]) by s554.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCDF7958A4; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from s404.loopia.se (unknown [172.21.200.105]) by s499.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A335B135DEF6; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:12:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se Original-Received: from s645.loopia.se ([172.21.200.105]) by s404.loopia.se (s404.loopia.se [172.21.200.134]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with UTF8LMTP id Jtp9LJmQyXRb; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:12:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: joakim.verona@chimeslab.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 81.170.223.63 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (h-223-63.A149.priv.bahnhof.se [81.170.223.63]) (Authenticated sender: joakim.verona@chimeslab.se) by s645.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9AAD213C9C97; Mon, 14 May 2018 11:12:57 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <26F4391E-B8E4-4F6D-9602-CB50C01C162D@scratch.space> (Van L.'s message of "Mon, 14 May 2018 16:49:08 +1000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 194.9.95.112 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225281 Archived-At: Van L writes: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >>=20 >> A kind of "custom-theme" for that would be great, but currently >> custom-themes don't work well for that since they can't really provide >> key-bindings. > > There could be money to be made selling the perfect Emacs physical keyboa= rd with key-binding-themes included, like those stealthy gamer=E2=80=99s ke= yboards but for programmers and readers. I find the ergodox good for this. https://gitlab.com/jave/jv-ergodox The repo contains a fork of Ergodox firmware, and some elisp to generate new firmware with new emacs oriented keyboard layouts. > > I switch between the smaller Apple keyboard and fullsize Thinkpad keyboar= d, both are without the numpad, and I really dislike: > > 1. typing C-x ; smallest left finger on `caps lock=E2=80=99 ; middle fing= er on x > > 2. the four extremely tiny arrow keys and the inverted T configuration > > > > > > > --=20 Joakim Verona joakim@verona.se +46705459454