From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: aminb@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com,
john@yates-sheets.org
Subject: Re: Three cheers for Eli!
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:05:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sh5yv86g.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83602yd027.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2018-06-04, at 17:49, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
>> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:30:09 +0200
>> Cc: rms@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com,
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, john@yates-sheets.org
>>
>> > Instead of attempting to explain it myself, I'll refer you to
>> > this [0] article by RMS, called Why Open Source misses the point
>> > of Free Software, which explains it much better than I could.
>>
>> I understand that, but Eli said
>>
>> > There's no doubt open-source projects do
>> > exist, it's just that GNU projects are not among them.
>>
>> I thought that GNU projects are rather in the intersection of "free
>> software" (in FSF sense) and open-source. That sentence confuses me.
>
> If yiu understand what Richard wrote in the article pointed to by
> Amin, then I don't see how it could confuse you. the GNU project
> explicitly does NOT want its software to be labeled "open-source".
OK, I think I get it now.
GNU _is_ open-source (because it satisfies the definition), but doesn't
_like_ being called like that, since this gives false impression due to
terms like "open-source" being quite loaded.
That makes perfect sense, although I'm not sure whether I like it. (I
mean it exactly as I have written, without any irony - I am really not
sure.)
Thanks,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-07 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-28 17:42 Three cheers for Eli! Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-28 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 19:39 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-28 20:29 ` John Wiegley
2018-05-30 10:29 ` Van L
2018-05-28 19:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-05-29 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-29 13:52 ` T.V Raman
2018-05-29 3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-29 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-29 18:02 ` George Plymale II
2018-05-30 7:04 ` Tim Cross
2018-05-30 10:53 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-03 18:29 ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-05-29 14:02 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-29 14:40 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2018-05-29 15:10 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2018-05-30 7:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2018-05-30 8:15 ` Boruch Baum
2018-05-30 10:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-05-31 15:59 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-31 22:57 ` John Yates
2018-06-01 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-01 3:02 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-01 14:02 ` John Yates
2018-06-02 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-02 12:30 ` John Yates
2018-06-03 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-03 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-04 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-04 4:47 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-04 5:09 ` Amin Bandali
2018-06-04 8:30 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-04 8:53 ` Van L
2018-06-04 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-07 17:05 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2018-06-07 18:00 ` João Távora
2018-06-11 3:25 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-11 13:50 ` Joshua Branson
2018-06-12 0:35 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-12 0:33 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-15 17:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-15 17:44 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-06-15 18:03 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-15 18:10 ` João Távora
2018-06-04 23:29 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-07 17:06 ` Marcin Borkowski
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