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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: aminb@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com,
	john@yates-sheets.org
Subject: Re: Three cheers for Eli!
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:05:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sh5yv86g.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83602yd027.fsf@gnu.org>


On 2018-06-04, at 17:49, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>> From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
>> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:30:09 +0200
>> Cc: rms@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com,
>> 	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, john@yates-sheets.org
>>
>> > Instead of attempting to explain it myself, I'll refer you to
>> > this [0] article by RMS, called Why Open Source misses the point
>> > of Free Software, which explains it much better than I could.
>>
>> I understand that, but Eli said
>>
>> > There's no doubt open-source projects do
>> > exist, it's just that GNU projects are not among them.
>>
>> I thought that GNU projects are rather in the intersection of "free
>> software" (in FSF sense) and open-source.  That sentence confuses me.
>
> If yiu understand what Richard wrote in the article pointed to by
> Amin, then I don't see how it could confuse you.  the GNU project
> explicitly does NOT want its software to be labeled "open-source".

OK, I think I get it now.

GNU _is_ open-source (because it satisfies the definition), but doesn't
_like_ being called like that, since this gives false impression due to
terms like "open-source" being quite loaded.

That makes perfect sense, although I'm not sure whether I like it.  (I
mean it exactly as I have written, without any irony - I am really not
sure.)

Thanks,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl



  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-07 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-28 17:42 Three cheers for Eli! Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-28 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 19:39 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-28 20:29   ` John Wiegley
2018-05-30 10:29     ` Van L
2018-05-28 19:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-05-29  1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-29 13:52   ` T.V Raman
2018-05-29  3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-29 16:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-29 18:02     ` George Plymale II
2018-05-30  7:04       ` Tim Cross
2018-05-30 10:53         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-03 18:29       ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-05-29 14:02 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-29 14:40   ` Rostislav Svoboda
2018-05-29 15:10     ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2018-05-30  7:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2018-05-30  8:15   ` Boruch Baum
2018-05-30 10:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-05-31 15:59   ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-31 22:57     ` John Yates
2018-06-01  8:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-01  3:02     ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-01 14:02       ` John Yates
2018-06-02  3:29         ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-02 12:30           ` John Yates
2018-06-03  2:32             ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-03 14:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-04  4:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-04  4:47                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-04  5:09                   ` Amin Bandali
2018-06-04  8:30                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-04  8:53                       ` Van L
2018-06-04 15:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-07 17:05                         ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2018-06-07 18:00                           ` João Távora
2018-06-11  3:25                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-11 13:50                               ` Joshua Branson
2018-06-12  0:35                                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-12  0:33                               ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-15 17:00                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-15 17:44                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-06-15 18:03                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-15 18:10                                       ` João Távora
2018-06-04 23:29                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-07 17:06                         ` Marcin Borkowski

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