bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi

I started Emacs and then gnus and my system got almost frozen.
I run the following script

#!/usr/bin/python

# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
import re
import sys

from ps_mem import main

if __name__ == '__main__':
    sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0])
    sys.exit(main())

And obtained:
Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program
 6.4 GiB + 375.0 KiB =   6.4 GiB       emacs-27.0.50

This cannot be good. How can I debug this?

Uwe Brauer 


In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2018-04-26 built on Utnapischtim
Repository revision: 1d75604eaded6a8482d28d57bc8e6a4d99d5caee
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000
System Description: Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS

Recent messages:
kill-line: End of buffer
Mark set [3 times]
next-line: End of buffer [2 times]
Mark set
pabbrev scavenging...
pabbrev scavenging (93 words *unsent posting on gmane.emacs.devel* buffer)... [2 times]
pabbrev scavenging...done
Mark set
Auto-saving...done
Mark set [2 times]

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/opt/emacs27 --with-x-toolkit=athena
 --with-mailutils'

Configured features:
XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS
NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 THREADS LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF8
  value of $LC_MONETARY: es_ES.UTF-8
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: es_ES.UTF-8
  value of $LC_TIME: es_ES.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Message

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  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
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  better-registers: t
  recentf-mode: t
  mml-mode: t
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  csv-field-index-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
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  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
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  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  auto-fill-function: #[128 \300\301\302.#\207 [apply orgalist--auto-fill message-do-auto-fill nil] 5 nil]
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  abbrev-mode: t

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bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

[Glenn Morris]

Closing; a less informative version of bug#33561.
You don't need to report identical issues separately to Gnus and Emacs.

bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "GNU" == GNU bug Tracking System <help-debbugs@gnu.org> writes:

   > Your bug report
   > #33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

   > which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

   > The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
   > If you require more details, please reply to 33560@debbugs.gnu.org.

Eli

I think you closed the bug. However it seems to me a gnus bug, not a
real emacs core bug. However, gnus is now part of core emacs and that is
why the two BUG system are unified. 

That is why  I think the bug should be left open since it cannot be that a 4 MB
attachment under gnus consumes 7 GB of RAM.

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bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>, 33560@debbugs.gnu.org,
> 	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> 
> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:54:54 +0100
> 
> Eli
> 
> I think you closed the bug.

It wasn't me, it was Glenn.  You can clearly see that in the bug
report, https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=33560.

> However it seems to me a gnus bug, not a real emacs core
> bug. However, gnus is now part of core emacs and that is why the two
> BUG system are unified.
> 
> That is why I think the bug should be left open since it cannot be
> that a 4 MB attachment under gnus consumes 7 GB of RAM.

It's a bug in ImageMagick, an external library Emacs/Gnus uses to
display djvu files.  I suggest to take the problem up with ImageMagick
developers, perhaps they know how to solve it or work around it.

bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Uwe Brauer]

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   > It wasn't me, it was Glenn.  You can clearly see that in the bug
   > report, https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=33560.

Ok point taken. I should have accessed debugs via gmane, where the
conversations are clearly visible. I did not see Glenn post before.

   > It's a bug in ImageMagick, an external library Emacs/Gnus uses to
   > display djvu files. I suggest to take the problem up with
   > ImageMagick developers, perhaps they know how to solve it or work
   > around it.

The point is that gnus does not display any attachment, just presents a
button (so that I can download the attachment if I wish). That is why I
doubt that ImageMagick is responsible.

It would be good, if one of the gnus developer would comment on this
issue. I will now reply to Glenn's message.





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bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

   > Closing; a less informative version of bug#33561.
   > You don't need to report identical issues separately to Gnus and Emacs.

The reason is that gnus still has it own gnus-bug function. Maybe it is
time to remove that function in order to avoid double posting?




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bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

   > Closing; a less informative version of bug#33561.

As I just said in a different message. Gnus does not display any
attachment, so I fail to see why ImageMagick should be the culprit if it
is not invoked. Anybody well acquainted with gnus/or developer could
comment on that issue. I still think it is a bug.



   > You don't need to report identical issues separately to Gnus and Emacs.





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bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:43:54 +0100
> 
>    > It's a bug in ImageMagick, an external library Emacs/Gnus uses to
>    > display djvu files. I suggest to take the problem up with
>    > ImageMagick developers, perhaps they know how to solve it or work
>    > around it.
> 
> The point is that gnus does not display any attachment, just presents a
> button (so that I can download the attachment if I wish). That is why I
> doubt that ImageMagick is responsible.

I think Gnus does invoke ImageMagick, even if it doesn't display the
image, as part of creating the button.  You can see if that is true
by attaching the debugger to Emacs while it is growing its memory
footprint: if I'm right, you will see some ImageMagick function(s) on
the callstack.

> It would be good, if one of the gnus developer would comment on this
> issue.

Agreed.

bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Glenn Morris]

Reporting the same bug to multiple places is inefficient.
In this case, it is completely pointless, since Gnus is part of Emacs
and all Gnus bugs are Emacs bugs. You created two identical consecutive
bug reports in the same tracking system and are now splitting the
discussion between them.

bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> I think Gnus does invoke ImageMagick, even if it doesn't display the
> image, as part of creating the button. 

If that is the default behaviour, it sounds like a security issue.

bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

   > Reporting the same bug to multiple places is inefficient.

I apologize. I wasn't sure whether it was a gnus or a emacs core bug and
I forgot that gnus is now part of emacs core. I strongly suggest to
remove the function gnus-bug, to prevent further 'misuse' in the future.


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bug#33560: closed (Re: bug#33560: 27.0.50; 6.4 GB of RAM)

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>,  33560@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:37:01 -0500
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > I think Gnus does invoke ImageMagick, even if it doesn't display the
> > image, as part of creating the button. 
> 
> If that is the default behaviour, it sounds like a security issue.

I'm not sure why that is a security issue, but what I had in mind was
the calculation of the image size.