From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cannot download packages from elpa Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 09:41:49 -0400 Message-ID: <87sgoaaqua.fsf@dick> References: <871rvucyh7.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="80106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 03 15:42:48 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iG1NW-000KjG-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 15:42:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36352 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iG1NV-0000Xw-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 09:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iG1Mh-0000Uv-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 09:41:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iG1Mf-0002d0-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 09:41:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]:45717) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iG1Me-0002bT-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 09:41:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id c21so3554525qtj.12 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 06:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=PJl2XDAtLfYgWN5QxhLqTCPJNfonv0oPdDhf+02f/SQ=; b=DHkt5/Qay5DUJhQZKq7TcNC0crVw5ithgThSFNJPtRr3hjVoE9SYn7/eCGXJVqBJIb atOrzA0HsMnLBtsI0tstf4WpzujNhSG+tAIkyWnDZbYFSYgw5LoZhhFftb9Wd/tuhZkB ivrLUm/xk+5GjgChDvdN1ZqazE/MZjsBB45f2pE4Aw81yExR+9rvcB01NvU2EnC86wHy ojdk/nF2XzoBLUp1wt77xYJ2++mRHaZrmaR7r2zUQC5hF4Ko6bAy2y2RFnmhBkEezdOj s+0DsW9Gyn7p44pG9Qc8GJgaJcqkm8qz+5n2dR3fiR6Nn5IFvnC7XTV/HTvtcELGO9hi URrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=PJl2XDAtLfYgWN5QxhLqTCPJNfonv0oPdDhf+02f/SQ=; b=Rmc5PtqCnMkTPgQmVp5qFYYkVR2DDOt+1J4igmtu0/X1og9al+irADdMDd5mzYqN52 o5Hjfdi+AF82KXAHNPiu4drmycc/8eym2XIBVEB+xJaBpAGClmihoCp8rrVydr7HUyld R7PptIzDzYOWCSf8Ee4fJPgn8Kt8huqFSrfFSyWhohGRlh6Qg5BiC1WL6akm0A2soWpt Hqojb2SHXyBYD6f/jMx6uZ6mFPvUCU35nruOAxlnjucGYmGngxhssNADiaxwoAv6+g97 JifX8OeIh+61J7q80mVwt0hZFVI1ngzBwCqv7/vxzltu7lGHd/pXM5IMB6+FQf+I0/k7 o/pw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVnXt876l8pF1cT8bxCbTN5g7ypMhPR1r3pTkYhnIKbuOoL2wzS YDfvlHxrjhT0eRi22TKquNQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzXPHkJu4l+JrljGSRiZSLtwyS5ccRKe8vpO7ktfpM1odLiVLEcQA0NrDDILMV0X//vKzQggw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3871:: with SMTP id r46mr10012581qtb.267.1570110111367; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 06:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (pool-100-33-98-8.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [100.33.98.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m186sm1651707qkb.88.2019.10.03.06.41.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Oct 2019 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2019 09:16:20 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::831 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240506 Archived-At: Is key expiration not par for the course? It's not clear what could have been done differently. The tragedies are emacs's outmoded packaging tools, and elpa's inscrutability. The mixed blessings of 80s tech in a point-and-click world, I suppose.