From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: (require) is still required, even after (package-initialize) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:35:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87sgna1pxh.fsf@web.de> References: <874kzr9xzb.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="171405"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs mailing list To: Pankaj Jangid Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 30 11:36:38 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iPlLB-000iPx-RG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:36:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38762 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iPlLA-0002qI-GL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 06:36:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iPlKC-0002ly-G8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 06:35:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iPlKB-00089U-Ay for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 06:35:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:47043) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iPlKA-00086o-Rn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 06:35:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1572431730; bh=c/kCqgPbUJjkaO65pbMwA3wbvi82YhlH1paUcO7i5eo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=KxV5XjmuW9ymJ89uDTReNB1YeEwy6VfqY7XbRW9oC5GiUzNZPyKL0xBRumC0CKNNg r6Y03c/BViiQfeKfllh15yobSp9drr6Xf3mCDlV2kwDkQVHuDsS86rS23Q+Ng+U8DV O2OMnnQljYbqICBqnCB49SgjSpzT4h0k21Q3mfCs= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.218.222.9]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lpf3q-1hnxnI1h3u-00fStP; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:35:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Pankaj Jangid's message of "Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:36:51 +0530") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:43N2kgrYrLKglvD7ZfNEtcbKvP7yVoub+8jYJdl+wIh+vhZeiRR A4oym9PdyQ6GKn12pS7PF32L6VEUGmW+/MhfPtgUqxiIjjL4E+/gjMGsoMNUrVmiR/9u6Cf gXFG7QksnK1elLbHVxTpELhKLgj/qu8o9VAE2cQpDPocjIzqUk+Ttz1X5wLvwZrcNAo+Znn 4qSzsKvgf+LsbQsfzdfSw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rmcXpI9Qlxc=:V28/1smT0PeZrltZgXUXgJ 1zdZHKngfc4ePZYeGKEifsVXnMzjCtL0/esqaVIJdgJWin47NAwPMABAZFV9KeiyK/X4YoqyP e5VxQGw98tb+aT4aNrBvqQsu047SA3LJ4jJc4OmiyH7UgvknhRlVpVeEXht13Cj6EVfwuvwGg u78Ol8/yf3kuTOdYx6uZc0R5NW+3pfHXyAaAYqlB7MUxVjZtPSoLlXx/apN1dAKKZKqRVmfgv H6LpKObqa1bfNsxpt7oncGG8zeW9t9B9Ty3Ov9qZmQUQCCxOhvNLwF7md9d/6Zv6HOAZxvPWf SW5437XuPDe0WS9Wtzg01zlIQAZkDXx/qidluEfkOCJZzAj8I0Keam6jdCB67TVZ++CT387TT NJsICROdXF7oQE2noOEkK5CbkH7xXJPSRX6C9ORULXe/t1lK3k04KU9UwnhOHcYJ2HOyktJGL q3R67+s79oBBoh+dYu6o0s7LQOpL4MkxqTL4TnZN7mr7DeNFovgvwBwdz+GDIuh7b/qutHNd0 6r3GI4rEudWLygIWdaReg6cKZ+aDwdD1pvm4aZ3wlAFFoQo62f78WlFi3OXChHZhjHT1y6+qM xjB4fB39F4kUCIDMCCk+CjytlbfMp7JeWVsH6JHATE2iuN2iOixKSvUmwptHrJIPtdw9aQ3ee IEIJH+Baub0wIOKwN3r2iuygHvh3Ehf+plFa54qmernELCdA6Klj0rk6Fszn2ef7nzQ3NLabh gr+9t2jc8HtwHd7krqW3akXluSniiAMhoV9C17PB9vMTuI44v1GzFh6uCBJ9kI8gCzAtDEZT X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121774 Archived-At: Pankaj Jangid writes: > But I don't think this is causing any issue in init.el. For server > setup, I have only this in my init.el: > > ;; start server for emacsclient support > (require 'server) ; I don't know why this is > ; required after > ; package-initialize > (unless (server-running-p) (server-start)) Ok, so there is no relation to flymake. "server" is a built-in library, and `server-running-p' is not an autoload function, so (require 'server) is needed in your init file. package.el is the Emacs package manager to install packages from outside repositories. `package-intitialize' activates your installed packages (it doesn't load them). But that doesn't matter here since server is not a package at all. You want to keep `package-intitialize' and you use it correctly, it just doesn't cover as much as you thought. Did that answer all of your questions? Regards, Michael.