From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27170: 26.0.50; Suggestion: Optionally send package build output to log file not *Messages* Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:43:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgchp8tb.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87fuflm0ky.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87k0xtqozx.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27500"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "N. Jackson" , 27170@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 18:44:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nfe-000722-Mc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:44:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58012 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nfd-0003My-Nh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60430) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nfW-0003Me-D8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nfW-0004DC-4D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nfW-0006sI-2k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27170 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 27170-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27170.159794180626335 (code B ref 27170); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 16:43:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43786 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nev-0006qh-K5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59824) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8net-0006qE-I5 for 27170@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:43:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4eqMPZBiVFJp8joz9cwuRIic4yzYhbCvelCQni0y8FM=; b=VG9IpkUs9QPSvbA1MrwVqvDqLY so73OQpx3GK+33KmB9QlqZt8Vfkdr2xbsBp9lqIkv5ZtWwbJ2Q6SG2AJs6KLf0cWS+eoz1HzvMVw2 ngpgbdp3lgx0pOsTpSyQxjg4bVzLOi3Lt6uWyD0hKRhLQRf2AzsyPa56rr2eNY0HC4Jg=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8nej-0006ye-O6; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:43:17 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEX58cb8/PnLy82k qbOvuMNIWXUADjgGHEO5ws1VZIAOLFD06L3n3Lb////bZOnbAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+QIFBAqGM4rjzMAAAEASURBVDjLnZTNEYIwEIXDeXMQqYDx4hWhAUdqsAJH7SBObv4crMAWcDhx Dx1oUeaXBEh08J2YfLy3m5AFIRTFQ82QVBwEi7KvtQHb/YG4OhrwILR2dbKAELNILQAB6NjBIBAV BM3X4l5HKArBVIcE1ZR2pwL40VVvvX7+FQUIQoD9B8h0QPUFGQEScvSI3qC6cG5jHDS4A8pSVZQK ABgxAziSPiKjsL6iRrTSNbA6K74isogtjtV8dJKDsjPHfs1dlUUmAf+Cvhm0IJGvpxaYqeWgyDce MIrqHEWe3W+pM+e6xnx5OScrDxj/GSAK1XhrsbbVTy/kV9Mw6RBxwIb6AKk8nceMEGMBAAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTA4LTIwVDE2OjQyOjI0KzAwOjAw7q1VygAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpt b2RpZnkAMjAyMC0wOC0yMFQxNjo0MjoyNCswMDowMJ/w7XYAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Sweeney's _Middle Ages_: "Night At Spirit Lake" In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:34:28 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185725 Archived-At: Philipp Stephani writes: > I don't think we can rename the *Messages* buffer. We document that > its name is *Messages*, and there's certainly tons of code around that > assumes that. I'm not talking about renaming the *Messages* buffer -- just being able to redirect messages to a different buffer if we want to. > If we want to change anything in this area, we'd better DTRT and > introduce a proper logging framework, with customizable log sources > and sinks (the *Messages* buffer being one of the sinks). Sounds like overkill to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no