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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256578 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I think "modified Emacs releases" would be a better term to use. "modified Emacs releases" is somewhat misleading, as it implies that the Emacs used in those "modified Emacs releases" has been modified, while most of these do not actually modify Emacs C code, or code distributed with Emacs. A common term used nowadays is 'starter pack'. Perhaps that would suffice?