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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258211 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think nowadays it should be enough to say something like "we > recommend to install a font for displaying the TaiViet script", it is > easy to find fonts with this information. Well, yes and no. "apt search font | grep viet" gives me no matches on this Debian system. I've been frustrated by this before, and I've resorted to saying "apt install fonts-*' or something, which isn't really ideal, so if Emacs could provide some guidance here (without us having to maintain a never-ending list of fonts), I think that would be helpful. I just looked at the HELLO file on this system, and these are the fonts that Emacs has chosen (there's no tofu in the buffer): Unifont DejaVu Sans Mono Various things from the Noto Serif/Noto Sans family of fonts -- I think they're all from the fonts-noto-core and fonts-noto-extra packages Symbola FreeSerif Plus daewoo, for Korean. So that'd be just about all the fonts (and possibly packages) we'd have to mention on the font help page. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no