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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: console key tutorial, revised (was: Re: Make Super key work in console - was Re: math (was: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users))
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:43:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg5y3gu9.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: YCjvKD5u7POVDqHT@protected.rcdrun.com

Jean Louis wrote:

> Terminal emulators are under X, they are not console.

Well, IMO there are just two things. There are terminals, i.e.
physical entities, and there are terminal emulators.
"Virtual terminal" is just another name for a terminal
emulator. Think about it, the software, what it does, even the
name - it is the same thing.

So the Linux VTs, which are the ttys, which are sometimes
referred to as the console, all of that, which is the same
thing, that is a terminal emulator, technically speaking.

The X terminal emulators, e.g. xterm, rxvt etc, are also ...
terminal emulators! However they are not the Linux VTs, or the
ttys, and they shouldn't be referred to as the console.

Not if one wants to avoid confusion, at least.

> That would liberate many new keys which would be harmonized
> between the GUI and console Emacs version.

Hm... Do the X terminal emulators have a common configuration
with respect to keys, even? Or do you do that on the XX level?

XX = X and only X

:)

-- 
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2021-02-07 23:29 ` Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users S Boucher via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-07 23:46   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-08  2:06   ` Howard Melman
2021-02-11  1:37     ` Christopher Miles
2021-02-11 13:52       ` Howard Melman
2021-02-11 16:58         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-12  3:31         ` Christopher Miles
2021-02-08  3:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-08 16:22     ` Francis Belliveau
2021-02-08 21:19       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09  0:52         ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09  1:03           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09  5:58           ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-09 12:19             ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 13:44               ` Marcus Harnisch
2021-02-09 16:48               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 16:53                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 17:24                   ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 17:33                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 17:43                       ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 17:35                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 17:45                       ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 23:55                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-10  1:50                           ` no job control in this shell (was: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users) Skip Montanaro
2021-02-10  5:22                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-10 10:49                   ` Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Jean Louis
2021-02-09 17:24                 ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-11  0:52           ` Francis Belliveau
2021-02-09  5:55       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-09  6:41       ` not good proposal: " Jean Louis
2021-02-09  7:51         ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-10 10:13           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 10:43           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-09  8:07         ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-10 10:21           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-09  9:13         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09  9:31           ` C-z, C-c, job control commands [was: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users] tomas
2021-02-09 12:22             ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-10 10:36           ` not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Jean Louis
2021-02-10 12:46             ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-10 19:14               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 19:31                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-10 19:42                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 19:31                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 19:49                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 20:20                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-11  7:54                   ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-11  8:30                     ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-11 13:15                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 10:14                         ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-12 13:00                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 16:48                             ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-12 17:33                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12  8:10                       ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-12 12:37                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13  7:37                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-13  8:50                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 14:17                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 20:48                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-13 21:17                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 22:23                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 23:38                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-14 18:30                                 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-15  4:23                               ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-13 23:47                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15  4:49                               ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-15 18:28                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16  7:18                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16  7:26                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-11  8:45                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12  5:42                       ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-12  8:44                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12  9:58                           ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-12 12:40                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-12 12:47                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 19:07                             ` Howard Melman
2021-02-12 20:56                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 21:05                                 ` Howard Melman
2021-02-16 12:38                                   ` ken
2021-02-12 21:07                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13  7:54                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13  8:03                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13  9:01                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 14:21                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:04                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:10                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-12 20:51                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:45                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 20:57                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13  8:28                                 ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-13  9:56                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 14:43                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 14:55                                       ` math (was: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:08                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:20                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:29                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 20:32                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:09                                         ` Make Super key work in console - was " Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:23                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:33                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 20:26                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16 11:55                                                 ` OT: more praise to Tramp - was: Re: Make Super key work in console - was Re: math ken
2021-02-13 23:43                                             ` console key tutorial, revised (was: Re: Make Super key work in console - was Re: math (was: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users)) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  5:17                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  6:21                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  8:05                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:37                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-14  9:36                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:43                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-02-14 14:36                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:58                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:38                                                       ` Snippet for website inquiries by using one click on the email address Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:56                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 19:38                                           ` Make Super key work in console Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 11:10                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 16:36                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 18:06                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-15 18:46                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:53                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16  7:42                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-16 11:03                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 14:32                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 15:26                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-20 15:46                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 16:07                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:16                                                               ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-20 16:38                                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-21  5:31                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  7:18                                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-21 12:40                                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 16:49                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 17:27                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 18:13                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 18:19                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:14                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-21  3:32                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 20:11                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-21  4:56                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  5:06                                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-21  5:42                                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  6:10                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-22  4:59                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-24 15:37                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:26                           ` not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Jean Louis
2021-02-12 21:08                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13  7:59                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 12:30                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13  7:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  8:37                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13  9:09                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:14                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13  8:17                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-14  0:35                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  1:54                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  7:58                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:33                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  9:34                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:18                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 14:29                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 15:26                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 17:22                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 17:56                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15  4:12                                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-15 18:15                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 18:24                                               ` tomas
2021-02-16  1:30                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:05                                               ` Stefan Möding
2021-02-16 21:58                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  7:13                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16 22:07                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-20 14:39                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 19:14                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-17  8:55                                               ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-17 23:23                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-18  6:29                                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-20 14:54                                                   ` Jean Louis
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2021-02-21  6:02                                                       ` Jean Louis
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2021-02-14  8:03                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:46                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:21                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:27                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:24                                     ` handling viewport in HTML - was " Jean Louis
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2021-02-14 14:37                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 15:21                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 16:26                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 19:44                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 19:50                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 13:11                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 13:16                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  7:58                               ` Jean Louis
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2021-02-14 10:16                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:21                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 14:31                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 22:13                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15  0:39                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15  2:23                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15  6:16                                       ` Who use C-x u or C-/ for undo? Who uses C-z for undo? Jean Louis
2021-02-15 17:59                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:52                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 17:56                                       ` not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 18:03                                         ` tomas
2021-02-15  6:06                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 18:31                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  7:22                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15  4:18                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-15  5:51                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 18:20                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:57                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16 22:02                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 11:28                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-14 12:55                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 13:14                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 20:22                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 20:49                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-11 14:32                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-11 16:58                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-12  7:18                       ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-12 17:51                         ` Drew Adams
2021-02-13  7:46                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-08 10:03   ` Proposal: " Colin Baxter
2021-02-08 20:20     ` Leo Butler
2021-02-09  6:02     ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-09 12:23       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-09 12:41         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 12:56           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-09 13:04             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 10:54               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-09 13:05             ` Bastian Beranek
2021-02-09 15:59             ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 16:11               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 16:19                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 20:14               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-09 20:50                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 20:18               ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-10 10:57               ` Jean Louis

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