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Wed, 28 Jul 2021 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87o8ambgkw.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2021 17:31:27 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:210843 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > It's already pretty easy to just alter the lighters -- just say: > > (setcar (cdr (assoc 'foo-mode minor-mode-alist)) "whatever") Manipulating minor-mode-alist is not that hard indeed; there are some sources of hassle though: (1) figuring out the name of the mode variable (e.g. auto-fill-function, defining-kbd-macro); (2) some modes seem not to add their variables to minor-mode-alist for some reason (e.g. caps-lock-mode on GNU ELPA), so this recipe does not work (neither does delight); one needs to fallback to add-to-list. Nothing too herculean, but I'm sure some users would appreciate a built-in function to figure out this stuff for them. (And IIUC, solving this with a function, rather than automatically creating variables for each minor mode, would address your concern about bloat, since any added bloat would be opt-in)